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What does "newjeans don't be blue" means?

NewJeans don't be sad/upset

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And people were saying we won't getting any new tea today because of holiday in korea...

The holiday was on the 15th lol it's the 16th in Korea now

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More clarity on the female stylist embezzlement from someone who worked in South Korea and knows South Korean labor laws.

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Yes let's listen to the guy who's notoriously pro-HYBE and made a joke about "hanging" jeans after making solely anti-MHJ and pro-HYBE posts since this entire thing started

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Today was haerin's birthday so now only hyein is minor in newjeans

Haerin is still a minor in Korea

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I found this insightful from a Korean KPOP fan on Reddit:

ihadtomakeajoke
•42m ago•Edited 37m ago

To people worrying about the Korean public opinion, and I have the pass to say this because I’m Korean (and I give everyone else the pass because it’s true), it’s super stupid so I would not pay much attention to it especially given the issue has not resolved, it always swings easily like a plastic bag in the wind and more information is being released as more time goes by and the courts are coming up as well.

A simple reminder that like 90% of readily visible online Korean public opinion was making Wonyoung the most hated person in Korea for eating a single strawberry with two hands. You really want to use anything like that as a barometer?

But still, if you want an estimation the actual location it’s at now (because no matter how stupid it is in terms of actual merit, artists still get hate for it and that’s not good):

It’s turned a lot more against MHJ as more evidence drops in core Korean communities. If you actually go to the biggest pure Korean community, 디시 it is bit more on Hybe’s side but it’s all over the place depending on where you are. I’d say most will say the visible public opinion is still a bit on MHJ’s side overall but way down from the peak right after the presser.

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It’s really hard to tell accurately because NewJeans sub on 디시 (basically Korean Reddit) actively posts relevant links from other sites and tells the fans to downvote stuff that’s good for Hybe and bad for MHJ & they are actively astroturfing on top of that, not making this up (link below showing literal multiple posts asking to do that) - there are posts will asking for 지원/support to go on new posts on other sites and downvote anything they don’t want to reach the front or to astroturf with comments and upvotes/downvotes.

Look at this post with screenshot of the NewJeans sub in 디시, most of yellow highlighted 지원 are posts asking people people to go comment and downvote - https://m.fmkorea.com/7029413286.

That’s one forum where it’s being done blatantly, my knowledge is there are other galleries and chat rooms but I’m not deep to the point of being in NJ chat rooms - but downvote brigading and astroturfing is literally being done as a fact as you can clearly see from the post in the link above.

Not claiming average everyday Korean NJ fans are doing this or supporting this, but whatever percentage of NJ fans these people represent have basically taken over anything NJ through sheer volume.

Lot of these people are people who think the LSF song title Unforgiven is a representation of Japan saying they don’t need to for forgiven from Korea for its actions during WW2, Sakura’s head rising over water in the MV teaser is a representation of Dokdo which is an island both Korea and Japan claim as their own, and they are claiming LSF is a group trying to literally hand over Korea’s government to Japan to go back to the imperial Japanese occupation days partnered with a Korean Yoga cult that worships this a special Korean bear from like 5000 years ago and the Japanese sun god Amaterasu at the same time (go read some comments yourselves, these are not few individual crazies these are thousands of comments with hundreds to thousands of thumbs ups - it does get very stupid - https://youtu.be/hxVv7BJYjlc?si=8uzQ_FuAWVuo5qM8)

Some Korean NJ fans also found this channel with weird videos (claiming it’s MHJ’s channel with secret messages to fight against Yoga Cult and Imperial Japan) and its comment section is just a congregation of people who are literally believing LSF and Hybe exists to turn the country of Korea to Japan as an imperialistic subjects and MHJ is the savior - from what I see there are many spots like these that have formed where people feed off of one another (this is not couple weirdos, this is real, these are thousands of comments with hundreds to thousands of upvotes per comment all agreeing with one another) - https://youtu.be/uZhdE4PlmZ4?si=SySdsPdWYB-BPTW8 or https://youtu.be/8abWLtMV-0Y?si=uRrF2nlxB-VwpmFk among many, many congregation spots for these people.

You can’t turn these types of people period - in their mind they’re fighting to protect Korea from evil clutches of cult-run imperialism.

You’ll see comments discussion what news organizations they can report this Hybe + yoga cult + Japan team-up to destroy Korea because the yoga cult supposedly has control of the Korean media and that’s the only reason they wont publish about their totally logical and not crazy Hybe and yoga cult and Japan team-up to destroy the nation of Korea theory (I don’t keep up with their plans closely, but last time I checked they’ve tried spamming to BBC and CNN, and given neither picked up their totally non-crazy sounding story, apparently they think the yoga cult may already have people in key positions in all big international media groups already (they point to BTS’s UN speech as supposedly being organized with the yoga cult’s international influence) or is in partnership with another worldwide cult like the Illuminati watching the back of the yoga cult - I really want to be making this up but I’m not, they really want to get their story for the entire world to hear.

These people are by thousands going to new news articles, other sites’ posts on the subject and just astroturfing and vote manipulating (again, they just post about it openly asking others to do it because it’s not against the site rules there).

These are the same type of people who were 100% sure Tablo is lying about his Stanford degree even after the president of Stanford literally states on video that Tablo did come to Stanford.

It’s literally astroturf season out in Korean general public opinion stage right now with some people going HAM literally believing they’re fighting for the security of the Korean people for the next thousand years against a yoga cult partnered with Imperial Japan - there is no way to accurately gauge what’s what after few hundred of those people sweep past any thread.

For public opinion, if it’s something like Seungri, where there is hard evidence against him and no new info to come out (he literally did some horrible stuff and got convicted), there is not a lot of room for it to sway (in Seungri’s case, rightfully so).

But for hate trains and public opinion frenzy trains that are based on something super stupid (like hating Wonyoung for strawberries stupidity or hating Tablo for diploma stupidity or hating LSF for bear yoga cult puppet and imperial Japan puppet stupidity), the people acting like total idiots eventually lose steam as reason starts to build back on in the other side (still takes way too long).

And lastly, if you didn’t click on those YouTube links, the comments are a wild ride if you have some free time - some really out there stuff that so many people just believe, not just a couple of crazies.

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디시? As in dcinside? The site known to be overrun with male incels? lol

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Yeah I'm a big Sailor Moon fan and was so curious about that in 2021 but nothing came of it until I saw a Sailor Moon-esque teaser for this new girl group.

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The Plus global auditions were for NewJeans, Hanni auditioned through this and Minji is the girl in the promotion video.