Posts by knysom

  • IVE Tried So Hard To Have Their ‘Ditto’ Moment With ‘Either Way’

    Quote from catzi

    Isn't that too much mental gymnastic for something so simple? I respect your opinion, but I'd rather just look at the groups with highest ULs peak since it does match with which groups everyone knows are/were big in SK: BigBang, BTS, Blackpink and Twice.

    Hi,


    I definitely understand your point of view in all of this. I debated if I should fully show my nerdiness (albeit anonymously) on an internet forum! I will point out if the platform is properly pulling data it does become simple! Data Analytics is a really fun world and data is simple at the end of day - we just have to put the proper context in place so metrics don't get misconstrued.

  • IVE Tried So Hard To Have Their ‘Ditto’ Moment With ‘Either Way’

    Hi,


    Thank you for responding to my post. I appreciate the interaction!


    Regarding the first X link of your post. Wow, I should check out MAMAMOO!

    I'd like to reiterate that my post was about a song's total UL, not a group's total UL. Group's total UL is a good metric of a group's popularity, but not a clear gauge of its popularity compared to another group. Here's why:


    - Total ULs for a Group speak on # of songs, how long a group has been around, and whether or not the platform started to count a particular metric. In looking up MAMAMOO they officially debuted in June of 2014 - they would have more ULs than a lot of groups that launched later on.

    - Melon launched in 2004 and who knows what type of metrics they kept and pulled from at the time (Does anybody know? Please share) and what their market share was compared to now (I would imagine less due to the competitive platforms now around). To get a more accurate data pull, you can look at a median UL (but that also comes with it's own skews).


    - Peak ULs gauging a song's overall popularity while important, still doesn't give the whole context. Was this the first day? Did the group go through something? What was it about that time period? For example a song's peak UL could be 600k, but it drops off to 200k for the same time period. This means initial interest in the song is high due to a variety of factors, but if someone had bad data intentions they can certainly say nobody cared about it after that day.


    - Maybe a better way to gauge is a song's total UL after a week or a month? Again, a peak UL only shows people listened to it during that time period. Besides, we don't even know if they liked it right?


    I hope what I'm saying makes sense, thanks for reading if you made it this far!

  • IVE Tried So Hard To Have Their ‘Ditto’ Moment With ‘Either Way’

    Hi,


    New to posting on this board but I've been lurking for a few weeks. It's definitely been an interesting read going through the psychology and perception about Peak ULs on both sides of the coin. For full transparency I'm just learning about the importance of this for the crowd here and I'm new to KPOP in general. Also, I like both groups and I'm not really sure why we can't just prop up the success of one group without bashing the other.


    Back to the highest peak UL distinction. It's an important metric, but ultimately it's based on that 1 account listening to that song for that period of time which initiates several other data points that can skew. Shouldn't we be looking at total ULs?


    When doing data analysis and pulls shouldn't we be looking at a metric's totality? Singling out one aspect of a streaming service's charting invites a dirty data pull doesn't it?


    Lastly, what happened to just enjoying the music? Should I just be expecting this with KPOP fans in general?


    Thanks for reading if you made it this far.

  • Number of ad views of Aespa’s latest song in the first week of promotion

    Quote from BEG4DAWIN

    I do wonder what is the price for a view.


    Even my nugu faves bought around 5 million views for one of their comebacks. So it can't be that expensive.


    What was the like to view rate? I have seen that 4% likes to views is normal.

    Hi,


    YT ads can range anywhere from $.10 to $.30 per click. If you did 100,000 views, you would spend about $10-$30k.


    Based on this metric, SM spent anywhere from $4,171,000 to $12,513,000 USD or

    W5,557,511,247.60 - W16,672,533,742.


    More than enough Hotteok to feed the population of Busan.

  • [theqoo] FIFTY FIFTY'S COPYRIGHTS SUCCESSFULLY ACQUIRED... "CONFIRMATION OF EMBEZZLEMENT OF FUNDS BY AHN SUNG-IL" [OFFICIAL]

    Hi,


    First post.


    Not sure about longevity, but here are FIFTYFIFTY's current streaming numbers on Spotify.

    Spotify is reported to have a 70% (Rights holders - in this case ATTRAKT) - 30% (Platform) split and pays out to $0.003-$0.005 USD per stream.


    Screenshot 2023-09-25 at 6.12.53 PM.png


    873,190,301 total streams as the solo (so the group doesn't split with another artist) at $0.005 per stream = $4,365,951.50.


    As per above, 70% of that goes to the song right's owner which is

    $3,056,166.05 USD = W4,087,650,255.70 SK WON.


    I know this is all projection, but damn, that's alot of Hotteok.