Posts by OopsEncoreMoi

    I don't think overperforming is worse than underperforming but I agree with ensuring a good balance and playing your part.


    If you've got someone else in the centre for a killing part I don't want the main dancer to be popping off on the edges by themselves.

    Thanks, at least someone got it.


    Showing off more than anyone else, given your best level during your turn.. it's normal, it's your turn, the focus is on you.

    But by doing that in someone else's part or when you're in a duet verse.. you just making the others like they're not giving enough (when in fact they did very well too).


    This thread isn't based of some comments online. I've just saw plenty videos of some idols ( that i'm not going to mention) that do it. And just like lazy performer, that "it's my show" sometimes piss me off.

    I'd much prefer to see artists input more effort a.k.a. over-perform than do very little to the point where it seems like they really don't want to be there.

    Because watching them over-perform would not feel like a waste of time as a viewer and I'd feel entertained.


    So, in answering the question, no.

    It's painful to watch as a viewer because you've come to see a team and all the attention is going to be on that person for the entire concert.

    And the next day, people will only talk about how great they were, how they stole the show.

    I don't think it's worth it at all.

    Solo performance is another topic


    But you said no, I guess "X and Friends" doesn't bother fans that much after all.

    For example in Shinee when someone is performing at the center they will give more energy, while others at both sides give normal energy.

    And I like it, cuz you can see that others are letting the centre shine and the centre is giving 200% of their energy, and it is the same for every person when they will rotate their positions.


    But as well when they go solo they unleash their full energy(unlike they don’t try to outshine each other in group performances), so their cohesiveness as a group is still there

    Giving more energy during your turn (if it's not a duo verse) isn't overperforming, it's just doing what it's supposed to do.


    Giving 200% of your energy during the entire performance is overperforming because you steal the show. It's not "you and your friends", it's team work...coeshion is important

    Glad to see we have the same taste. These two are usually the most attractive.


    just out of curiosity if you have to choose one in 4gen. Who is the most attractive?

    That comment :

    “I’d rather see someone overdo it than do the bare minimum.”



    Yes, for me it is bad at least when you are in a group/team


    Doing the bare minimum or overshadowing your group isn’t good.


    Some examples:


    - When there's a rap duet in your group's song, going back and forth... you both have to be in the same mood,

    If one is rapping normally and the other is yelling and screaming throughout their verse, it's just going to sound messy.

    You both have to shout or stay in the normal verse. (you must reach an agreement)


    - Dance: Lots of people have something to say about this one.


    Unfortunately I agree with fans who criticize idols who do the bare minimum and I validate the criticism (as long as it doesn't go off topic).

    I hate defending something that is indefensible, something that needs to be pointed out to be corrected.


    But it's ironic that Kpop fans often turn a blind eye when they see someone overperforming. And praise them by saying that they gives 100% of their energy while the others don't.

    No, the others don't do less, it's your fav who is overexcited for some reason.

    I've seen someone overperform in a slow song when the song didn't require it.


    Conclusion, it's not that fans are never satisfied (or maybe they are) but balance is important in a team.

    « I will not pretend that i have never complained about companies prioritizing K-netz over international stans, but very quickly i learned that complaining about this accomplishes nothing.


    Often people believe that K-netz are prioritized because they are domestic market, which is true to some degree, but the biggest reason why in my observation is that in comparison to international stans they actually follow through their threats.

    Company fear backlash from koreans because their bark is just as hard as their bite; where as to the best international stands have to offer is lip-service.

    If korean threaten to unstan a group completely simply because one member mess up, believe me they will.


    It’s like they have this innate power to pull their support 100% from an idol they were madly attached to just hours or days ago.

    If their deduction of support causes the entire group to suffer, they do not care.


    International stans are the complete opposite, they will bark on social media, twitter or (X) especially, about how they will drop this *idol and stan this group, tag the company, trend hashtags, and fight with supporting fans for days on end, and guess what happens at the end of the day?

    Nothing, in fact, they would be lucky to get an apology, and if they do, it is often a flimsy three sentence paragraph in a poor attempt to appease the masses to make them shut up.


    It kind of reminds me of the times my mom would stick a lollipop in my brother’s mouth when he was a kid just to get him to stop crying. If you act like child, you’ll be treated as such.

    Screaming matches on social medias spaces are rewarded with quick fixes, and they ( the quick fixes) work every single time. If you want a long term change in a company or kpop group, you’re going to have to follow through your threats.

    Financial gain is the primary goal of every for-profit organization, and if that is threatened, changes are made in order to maintain it. »

    Source : everglow-up



    And maybe that's why I prefer to avoid conflicts with K-netz. They are not only a “one trend” country in terms of fashion, they are also a “one trend” country in terms of actions and threats.


    On the other hand, it is difficult to have I-stans (composed of thousands and millions of fans) on the same page, to have everyone (or the majority) agree on an action is quite rare.

    In summary, we must be united if we want the company to listen to us.

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