how are they called self-producing if they didn't produce the songs themselves? i'm not hating ok but srsly, when you call a grp self-producing, they don't only write, arrange or compose their songs but most of all, they produce it which is the most complicated part in making a song. Groups who are self-produced are the likes of big bang, bts, stray kids, gidle, pentagon etc bc they don't only write the lyrics, arrange or compose the song but the member/s also produce it themselves. I've never heard a grp being called self-produced just bc they participate in the writing process during 2nd gen era but i noticed in 3rd and 4th gen, the term self-produced is misused a lot of times. A self-written album is very different from a self-produced one. I'd say gidle is an example of a self-produced girl group bc they take part in every department may it be in writing, arranging, composing or producing. I'm not hating guys ok i actually appreciate them bc there are only few ggs who take part in the writing process but it's really a bit of a stretch
