Posts by brodude

    Deflection, whataboutism, deflection, excuse


    You could have saved us both the time and not said anything

    I mean, instead of trying to act superior, you could provide sources to back your claims.
    But you prefer not to.

    And if you see these claims I've made as deflection, whataboutism and excuses, there's no point discussing here any longer.
    You could have saved us both the time and not said anything.

    From where I'm sitting: poisoning the water supply, rendering soil so toxic it's infertile, cutting electricity and bombing the shit out of region with reckless abandon seems like genocide to me.

    There are many ways to contribute to a genocide without casualty by arms, and those deaths are hard to count

    I don't know about Israel delivering poisoned water or anything like that.
    Also, Israel is not the only provider of water in Gaza.
    But funny you mention water in Gaza, because just today, Hamas THEMSELVES released of video on how they make their rockets, and you know what they use to make them? Water pipes. Funded by EU and also the ones that are delieved from Israel.

    See for yourself:
    https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1397186381756125184

    Regarding rendering soil toxic, don't know anything about that or found anything about that, so couldn't argue with that.

    And regarding cutting electricity and bombing, it's happening because there's a war now.
    It's not a daily thing.

    I don’t think living in Gaza is possible anymore at this point, there is no functional infrastructure anymore. Especially not if Israel goes through with they’re plan to start a bomb rain over Gaza. It has to be rebuild from scratch and it will need a huge sum of financial support, which I doubt will happen. We still have a bunch of developing countries who got their independence decades ago, but are still suffering from the effects of past colonialism till this day.


    I think they might relocate to the West Bank

    In 2005, Israel voluntarily left gaza, forcefully pulling every single Israeli/jew from their homes and evacuated the entire Gaza strip. No exchanges, no agreements, simply just left it.
    There's 0% Israeli or jews precense in Gaza, no IDF either. 0%.
    There were greenhouses left, beautiful neighberhoods and more.

    In 2006, Hamas started executing and throwing off rooftops people who belonged to any other authority in the Gaza strip besides them.
    They were democratically elected by the Palestinian people as their government, and there weren't any elections since then. 17 years.

    Everything the Israelies left in Gaza was destroyed by them.

    Gaza could've been an oasis, it could've been like Dubai, innovative, modern and just good for their population and good for the world.

    But Hamas has other plans.
    They want all jews dead, it was in their charter. That is their current goal.
    And what did Israel get in return for leaving Gaza? To this day tens of thousands of unguided rockets, indiscriminately fired towards civilians that live in Israel.
    These rockets do not only kill jews btw, because these rockets just fired with not much thought and no guidance, they have killed israeli arabs, and also hit a mosque this very week!
    Not only that, a lot of the times these rockets fall short INSIDE the Gaza strip, killing their own people.

    They cynically use the Palestinian people, using them as human shields and want them dead for 2 reasons:

    1. They actually believe death is much more important than life. They glorify death, they want to die as martyers.
    2. To gain sympathy from the world.

    Why do they want sympathy from the world?
    Well see, sympathy brings in donations and aid. Money.
    Countries all over the world and different organizations collect this money to help the people in Gaza to build a better life for them.
    But this money never reaches the Palastinias who actually need it.
    This money is straight up stolen by Hamas, being used in 2 ways:

    1. Build terror tunnles for them to hide and fire rockets from (among other places like schools and hospitals). Also to fund all their rockets and other fighting means.
    2. Straight up goes to the pockets of the leadership of Hamas. They sit in Doha, in Qatar, living their luxurious lives, while their people in Gaza suffer the consequences of their actions like we see today.

    Hamas doesn't care about the Palestinian people, it's plain and simple.
    They just use them as a tool for money and power.

    That's still genocide with a propaganda filter on it

    What genocide?
    The gazan population quadrupled itself.
    The whole Israel-Palestine conflict has much less casualties in 75 years than the Ukraine-Russia conflict had in less than a year.

    I can't fathom how they can stomach the embarassment and realisation that such atrocious claims were nothing but made up lies to excuse a genocide against palestinians.


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    walk backs and debunking footnotes coming too late. the damage was already done and anyone with conscience can see through the charade.

    So babies and children are confirmed deliberately murdered by Hamas terrorists, and you only care whether they were beheaded or not?
    How absurd and inhuman.

    Oh and by the way, there you go if you needed any evidence for murdered babies, you should be ashamed:


    Edit: I removed the link showing pictures of the babies, since this is a k-pop forum and I believe it's inappropriate to link them here.
    But if you do wanna see for yourself go to the X account of the Prime Minister of Israel.
    :!::!::!: WARNING: these photos are disturbing, see them at your own risk. Do not do this to yourself if you are very sensitive.

    Palestinians are under apartheid rule according to international law


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    Also false.
    ANY person that has an Israeli citizenship, has full rights, no matter gender, age, religion, ethnicity or sexual preference.
    There are arabs in the parliament, doctors, supreme court judges (Did you know an arab judge once put both israeli prime minister and president in jail?), heads of banks and more.

    Regarding arabs who don't have Israeli citizenship, well, they're under the PA in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza, they have nothing to do with Israel.

    Also regarding selling lands to arabs or arabs buying lands, also false. There's no restrictions for arabs buying lands, and no punishment what so ever for anyone selling arabs lands.
    But did you know, that if a Palestinian is found selling a piece of land to a jew, they have a punishment, and that punishment is death?

    You do realise that all the places attacked on Saturday are settlements right? RIGHT?

    False.
    Settlements only exist in the West Bank, these were houses near the Gaza strip.
    Not even relevant though, those attacks were barbaric to say the least.

    And this justifies airstrikes on Palestinian civilians how?? Maybe you should stop supporting colonizers :-)

    This has nothing to do with what I said.
    And maybe you should stop being a hypocrite for only caring about innocent casualties of one side.

    Just now there was a terror attack on civilians by two terrorists, killing 3, and injuring several more fighting for their lives at the moment.
    Like all the previous attacks on innocents, Hamas praised the attack, a KNWON terror organziation the Palastenian people chose as their government.

    Wait, where were you guys in the last few weeks?
    Where were you guys when an "innocent" armed with a knife palestinian went to the streets of Be'er Sheva and started stabbing "dangerous" passers-by and murderd 4?
    Where were you guys when when 2 "innocent" armed with automatic rifles with begs full of ammo palestinias went to Hadera to just murder anything that moves and started blasting in the middle of the street and murdered 2?
    Where were you guys when an "innocent" armed with an automatic rifle palestinian just went on the streets of Bnei Brak running everywhere shooting everyone, murdering 5?
    Where were you guys when an "innocent" armed with a pistol palestinian went to Tel-Aviv on a Thursday night and started shooting at people sitting in a bar drinking beer, murdering 3 people?

    BTW: BBC, AP, Fox News, The Guardian Al Jazeera and more, all of those reported all those stories, also this one that you put here in the thread that you're saying nobody is talking about.
    Oh and not only do they report all those things, they're also changing and twisting their story titles so it will always sound Israel is the bad guy, so what are you talking about when you say the mainstream media is always in favor of Israel?