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your faves ofc
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Red Velvet. It's just really hard to achieve consistent popularity while doing sudden concept changes if you're a smaller artist (like Nature, or CLC).
Agree, but Red Velvet does have "flop eras" and their achievements are not on the level of bigger GGs.
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Red velvet it has to be said mediocre music no dtan attractor in the group, overhyped visuals and members lack stage presence. Atleast txt releases good music.
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Agree
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Still BIGHIT rejects and went to the most privileged show ever. Don't be too brave, survival show fan.
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Agree, but Red Velvet does have "flop eras" and their achievements are not on the level of bigger GGs.
Their flop songs always chart high during first week
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Their groups are carried by army, it's a known fact.
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Their groups are carried by army, it's a known fact.
multis exist
most fandoms, especially 4th gen groups have many armies in it so it's not the drag you think it is
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People who mention txt and enhypen are either fans of nugu groups or fans of big3 groups that are not doing well lmao
txt and enhypen both have some of the best music among 4th gen groups, versatile discography. they are all rounders, talented.
Also, enhypen is a survival show group. Even without hybe they would have hit it big because survival show groups build strong and loyal fanbases.
TXT and Enhypen stay as top groups while you all keep writing your envious comments on allkpop
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People who mention txt and enhypen are either fans of nugu groups or fans of big3 groups that are not doing well lmao
txt and enhypen both have some of the best music among 4th gen groups, versatile discography. they are all rounders, talented.
Also, enhypen is a survival show group. Even without hybe they would have hit it big because survival show groups build strong and loyal fanbases.
TXT and Enhypen stay as top groups while you all keep writing your envious comments on allkpop
Doesn't change the fact that they have army privilege
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-Red Velvet because the concept changes between Red and Velvet would've screwed them over like CLC without company power.
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The problem with hybe is that their creative teams are more talented than hybe idols (and any other company).
Yall should praise them instead of bellow average idols.
this.
(new) hybe groups get so elaborate and polished concepts that it blinds people from the fact most of their idols are basically talentless
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Doesn't change the fact that they have army privilege
stay salty
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stay salty
lol that's the only response your fandom ever gives
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Nobody who isn't of SM, JYP or YG because in 99% of the cases outside these 3 the companys only became big trought the most popular artist and if they wouldn't exist you would not even know the company names or just wouldn't give a fuck. (Example: before MONSTA X became popular not a single person gave a crap for the name of Starship Entertainment, not even for WJSN, Sistar, Boyfriend, Jeong Sewoon or Cravity tho)
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Treasure. They'd be doing so much worse if they were in a small company. Their music is very divisive and they don't have much content. They'd be extremely nugu. The only reason I see most people even mention them recently is because they're from yg and debuted after Blackpink.
Blackpink. Rookie Blackpink to be specific. I don't see any possibility of a small company group surviving the kind of hiatuses they've had. And they wouldn't have the hype and track record of great digital performance their company is known for at debut.
Basically any yg groups.
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Just the biggest fandom in the world
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People are not ready to hear this but BIG3 GGs survive on company privilege.
At least BGs big3 or otherwise have flop debut years and it takes them a few years to build a fandom. Big3 GGs have ready made fame.
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whatever helps you sleep
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