Nj having members who grew up outside of Asian country is probably benefiting them in what’s happening now

  • First and foremost, these are just my observations, and I might be right or wrong, so feel free to disagree.


    Danielle repeatedly thanking Mhj, even when she knows she will face criticism, and Hanni attending the National Assembly meeting are actions that, in my opinion, are quite unusual for idols raised in Asian cultures/countries. Similarly, their parents' outspoken behavior—defending their children publicly—differs from what we typically see. When comparing this to the case of 50/50’s parents, who remained more reserved despite the backlash their children faced, it's probably Hanni and Danielle’s families that encourage them to express their opinions clearly.


    As an Asian, it’s hard for me to say this nicely, but we tend to be more reserved in situations like these. Workplace culture can be toxic due to the heavy emphasis on seniority and hierarchy. Mental health struggles aren’t discussed openly, and many of us endure difficult situations silently instead of standing up for ourselves. While parents/family do offer support, their love language is often quiet or indirect, and we are generally expected to handle problems on our own.


    From my experience and observations, there’s a noticeable difference in mentality between Asian and non-Asian employees in my working experiences. For example, when seniors or someone with higher position ask us to make coffee or pass some of their tasks to us, we often comply, even if it bothers us, because it feels “normal” within the hierarchy. However, when non-Asian employees joined us, they refused such requests outright and even threatened to report the behavior to HR and take it further if needed if it happened again to anyone else. And it able to change the office environment.

  • Yes, this!! Always notice their abroad environment contributed on speak up culture.


    But tbh, even hyein the youngest one also somewhat who speaks up clearly. There was phoning video where she called out fans not to speculate over something and only see it in one dimensional view. Apparently there was this live where hyein left to take drink and fans speculate she left since hanni and Danielle talked in English and she felt uncomfortable. She stood up and defend her unnies cause she felt frustrated with baseless rumour.


    Haerin live speech touched me the most. I have goosebumps just how eloquent she spoke about not wanting to work with those kinds of people.


    Minji always look though but I know she also shade people in her story who she though cross the line.


    I guess, being raised in label like Ador, having MHJ as mentor and staff like family, give them confidence to stand for themselves.


    MHj did run Ador in different way,in terms she truly makes NJ equal, and includes them in their own artistic decisions. Like I got it , it could shape these young generations of idols to know their value and worth and contribution within company, not merely just "company asset" that can just be replaced or studied to make them more suitable to meet fans demand.


    I personally need to apologize to NJ, because before this MHJ VS Hybe feud, I always thought they were privileges, and just lucky cause they are young and beautiful, and kpop just easy to exploit minors. Now I can see how mature and strong they are. For 7 months and 2 years prior they have shown nothing but professionalism. Other idols probably broke down and just silent seeing their CEO being shattered by media.

  • I see what you're saying, but I wonder if it is moreso because of their unique situation rather than where the members come from. They are a hugely successful group with lots of public support (both domestic and internationally). The fact they are from a hugely successful company with other big name artists only amplifies their story.


    The FiftyFifty situation was also unique, but for different reasons. They had one hit song that could've put them on track to stardom but was squelched due to the controversy. They were not from a big company and their fanbase wasn't nearly as large as NewJeans'. The public was also split on their situation.


    People are naturally more inclined to speak out if they have plenty of support to back them up. The parents of FiftyFifty may have been worried about making their daughter's situations worse by "rocking the boat".

  • I see what you're saying, but I wonder if it is moreso because of their unique situation rather than where the members come from. They are a hugely successful group with lots of public support (both domestic and internationally). The fact they are from a hugely successful company with other big name artists only amplifies their story.


    The FiftyFifty situation was also unique, but for different reasons. They had one hit song that could've put them on track to stardom but was squelched due to the controversy. They were not from a big company and their fanbase wasn't nearly as large as NewJeans'. The public was also split on their situation.


    People are naturally more inclined to speak out if they have plenty of support to back them up. The parents of FiftyFifty may have been worried about making their daughter's situations worse by "rocking the boat".

    Not really. NJ signed the petition to support MHJ way before fans support becomes this high, and at that time KKT about MHJ allegedly talked bad about NJ member was leaked. And most of people, even many of their fans, were regretting their move. But the kids just kept ongoing, not even separating themselves from the management issue.

  • very good observation, and I agree, HYBE along with the Korean public most definitely didn't anticipate the girls speaking out so openly - not even Western kpop fans saw it coming given their impulsive reaction. Factor that with MHJ's guidance and who the members look up so fondly to as a role model and you have a recipe for upheaval. Their actions have not only challenged traditional expectations within the industry but also sets a precedent for future artists to express their feelings and concerns more candidly

  • Not really. NJ signed the petition to support MHJ way before fans support becomes this high, and at that time KKT about MHJ allegedly talked bad about NJ member was leaked. And most of people, even many of their fans, were regretting their move. But the kids just kept ongoing, not even separating themselves from the management issue.

    They still had a lot of fans prior, though. Even if they weren't all on board immediately, they still had a significant fanbase that was willing to stick around and were patient enough to wait to see where the issue led. People were still interested in them.


    With FiftyFifty, they hardly had any fanbase at all. When their scandal happened, many people just outright forgot about them or decided they weren't worth the hassle of caring.


    You could start talking about NewJeans and people would go like "oh! Super Shy Super Shy!" or start singing Hype Boy.


    When you talked about FiftyFifty, people would go "who?". You'd tell them "they're the ones who made the Cupid song" and they'd go "Ooooh, yeah... I like that song".

  • Ugh. Disagree. As you claim it’s from your POV and experiences but there are Asians that grew up in Asia that speaks up on all kinds of issues. I don’t understand why generalizations have to be made….

    Unfortunately, those who speak out are the exception rather than the norm. Korean and other Asian societies have this reputation for a reason

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