Is Attention the most successful kpop debut of all time?

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they would have got a PAK if youtube chart didn't screw them over, which only updates weekly and didn't exist for BP

On a national level Attention is as successful as Whistle for sure, internationally nobody tops BP ofc

at BP debut there were like 11-12 charts, which don't exist now, so it wasn't that easy like you guys think

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For now it can't, Eleven is the highest charting song internationally, and longest charting debut song on melon. Right now the only thing Attention have above is Melon ULs and sales, though that is understandable as they released a mini and come from big 4 and Ive released a single.

Ive is under Kakao, a huge conglomerate. So stop with this Big 4 narrative.

all groups are on equal standing.

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Ive is under Kakao, a huge conglomerate. So stop with this Big 4 narrative.

all groups are on equal standing.

Girl and so are Stayc, Monsta X, Cravity, The Boyz, WJSN. Do you see any of these groups charting and selling as good as Ive? No, so stop acting stupid and pretend that Kakao have company stans.

All I know is that NJ are the only rookies who placed 3 songs in the top ten

as an album? no one comes close. Name me a rookie group who had 3 songs in top 10?

a viral debut hit? I don't think it's bigger than 2ne1' fire or Missa' debut

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Ive is under Kakao, a huge conglomerate. So stop with this Big 4 narrative.

all groups are on equal standing.

How that does not matter IVE take #23 on place Spotify global chart but not added TTH but NJ added.

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Ive is under Kakao, a huge conglomerate. So stop with this Big 4 narrative.

all groups are on equal standing.

Starship don't have the brand power like sm, jyp, hybe and yg to make all group coming from them successful.

and you bringing up Kakao is stupid af. IVE is a non-big group that is doing better than all big group so eaccept that narrative because it true.

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Ive is under Kakao, a huge conglomerate. So stop with this Big 4 narrative.

all groups are on equal standing.

how that does not matter IVE on #23 Spotify global chart but not on the TTH playlist but NJ Attention added there.

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they would have got a PAK if youtube chart didn't screw them over, which only updates weekly and didn't exist for BP

On a national level Attention is as successful as Whistle for sure, internationally nobody tops BP ofc

That's mean it didn't

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For now it can't, Eleven is the highest charting song internationally, and longest charting debut song on melon. Right now the only thing Attention have above is Melon ULs and sales, though that is understandable as they released a mini and come from big 4 and Ive released a single.

Attention and Hype Boy already have high Spotify top 200 number than Eleven.

However, Attention never charted on Apple Music Global

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Attention and Hype Boy already have high Spotify top 200 number than Eleven.

However, Attention never charted on Apple Music Global

Yeah with the payola now they do. Their numbers dont make any sense and Hybe isnt subtle at all, Newjeans only chart on specific charts and nowhere to be seen at others that should be easier to chart. Ironic that they come from the same company that have the most "organic" group in kpop.