How did Hwasa go from it girl to flopping so quick? (and not Jennie, Irene)

  • One minute, she was an it girl, selling out corns and meat in Korea, everywhere on TV, number one song, setting new beauty standards, yet now her songs one after the other flopped, including her new song with Loco, Mamamoo not getting hits too. Irene and Jennie, the two other it girls still got Korea hyping them so why is Hwasa flopping?

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  • Irene has't even released a solo and has barely any work on tv at least hwasa is booked fully

  • This is proof that Hwasa was never been an IT Girl .... being revelant for a second doesn't make you an it girl

    if it's the case every girl who get hype is an it girl

  • Lol and what is Irene up to nowadays? No hate but girl ruined her own career and had to go into hiding, lost all her own endorsements and CFs.


    Jennie hasn't had any activities for 20 years come on now.


    Who fights for these imaginary titles hahaha ;(;(

  • Hwasa is doing much better than Irene. Girl shot her career in the foot with that attitude scandal

  • Hwasa is not from the Big 4. Which means she's far more vulnerable to changes to the negativity, when you're not really trending anymore or your song isn't that good.


    Who fights for these imaginary titles hahaha ;(;(

    This, I can't with the abuse of some terms.

    It girl, national hit, flop, all those terms like these should be prohibited since ifans only use them to promote their extremely subjective biases and prejudices anyway.

  • Irene got hype? The same Irene who has no solo music career, her cfs have reduced, her acting career is dead, she never appears on tv anymore and so on?


    Even if Hwasa isn’t the big trend she once was she still has more of a career than Irene lol

  • Not you trying to lump Irene with Jennie of people now come on. Irene literally lost most of her CF deals to non big3 idols and actors, her movie (double Patty) flopped hard, didn't get booked for any other drama, movie projects after her movie and she doesn't even have any prominent solo works up until now. Plus that little reality show of her's is being slandered by knetz ijbol.


    Hwasa is doing more than fine actually, her recent Collab is climbing the charts real quick and she's getting booked across the country for more shows. The person you should technically have made this thread about is for Irene and not hwasa xd :pepe-cringe:

  • Jennie is on another level currently compared to the two so and that with having no solo activities or variety appearence

  • i wish i was flopping like hwasa, man she still rakin in them $$$


    why cant i flop like that :waterr::waterr:

  • Irene? No shade but didn't the soju stocks increase when they replaced her with IU??She had 2 asian ambassadorships in 2020 before her scandal but her contemporaries like Lisa, Somi, Jennie were pulling 6-12 that year, even Seulgi had 4.


    Hwasa's success is extremely SK centric but even then one visit to hwasa global shows she has over a dozen sponsorships/ambassadorships so far in 2022 with almost all luxury brands. She was front row in Valentino with Ms. Wintour. MMM has way more fans in SK so her success doesn't make rounds in the i fan side.

  • I checked to be sure. Hwasa's last solo comeback she barely charted in the top 100. Ok.


    If you're not Big 4 and you're not IU, you will have trouble maintaining your success.

    See Sunmi. See Chungha. That says it all.


    She's collabing with Loco again. Last time she did she ended at the #1 spot.

    I hope for her she'll get the same benefits again for this collab.

  • Irene was an it girl? I've never felt her impact like the other 2

  • Irene was an it girl? I've never felt her impact like the other 2

    It's a Korean thing.

    She used to be very popular, before the scandal.


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    Dont think too much of it, hyperboles are the norm in k-pop. Best this, best that, king here, goddess there, exaggerating happens all the time with k-pop idols.

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