This is something I've noticed occurring a lot lately, hybe fandoms like moas, engenes, carats are always criticizing hybe for the smallest things,rightfully so because at the end of the day all companies are greedy but the minute an ARMY comes out with a genuine concern they are labelled as manti almost instantly.
Why is it so hard to believe for armys that hybe can also fuck up??
because armys are the only fandom that treats stanning a kpop group as some sort of a cult. just look at the number of fans talking about the fandom as if it's their "second family" and yada yada. they've made stanning bts their whole personality and think anyone who criticizes anything even remotely close to bts, let alone the label that created them, is a direct personal attack against themselves. the number of brainwashed people who actually behave and think in that way is concerning
People keep calling MOAs and Engenes as HYBE stans, but it's actually ARMYs who appreciate HYBE bgs that are company stans. And they are completely weird ass people. I could be criticizing about weverse and they would still get offended. Like this doesn't even concern any of your faves? 
You can complain all you want if you want. It's a free world. People are also allowed to disagree with your opinions. I don't see what the big deal is or why you'd care about what others are saying. Just remember to always keep things civil and not call people who disagree with you on one thing "disgusting or brainless mantis/hybe stans". That's usually when things go wrong.
You can complain all you want if you want. It's a free world. People are also allowed to disagree with your opinions. I don't see what the big deal is or why you'd care about what others are saying. Just remember to always keep things civil and not call people who disagree with you on one thing "disgusting or brainless mantis/hybe stans". That's usually when things go wrong.
please, miss me with that "people can disagree". it's not about WHAT is being complained about, it's WHO is doing the complaining. moas could be complaining about weverse being useless/saying "fuck bighit" for not letting txt go on certain music shows/.. & moarmys (they are the ones who do this the most often) would be silent af or even going along. But the second army have the EXACT SAME complaints, hybe stans & moarmys suddenly come out of the woodworks to tell those army that they know nothing about business and how they are treating bts as babies. like, get out of here, they are just a hypocrite bunch. also, it's not that they defend hybe once or even a few times (which i would totally understand, army aren't a monolith), but it's the pathetic company stans that are ALWAYS on the crime scene, sword in hand to defend poor little, multimillion hybe, no matter the complaint army bring.
if it wasn't for minors being involved & the very serious, sad topic of the recent controversy, i would almost be happy this is happening because people are finally seeing what many of us have been trying to say about hybe.
please, miss me with that "people can disagree". it's not about WHAT is being complained about, it's WHO is doing the complaining. moas could be complaining about weverse being useless/saying "fuck bighit" for not letting txt go on certain music shows/.. & moarmys (they are the ones who do this the most often) would be silent af or even going along. But the second army have the EXACT SAME complaints, hybe stans & moarmys suddenly come out of the woodworks to tell those army that they know nothing about business and how they are treating bts as babies. like, get out of here, they are just a hypocrite bunch. also, it's not that they defend hybe once or even a few times (which i would totally understand, army aren't a monolith), but it's the pathetic company stans that are ALWAYS on the crime scene, sword in hand to defend poor little, multimillion hybe, no matter the complaint army bring.
if it wasn't for minors being involved & the very serious, sad topic of the recent controversy, i would almost be happy this is happening because people are finally seeing what many of us have been trying to say about hybe.
I see what you mean. Anyway it's not like arguing with them will suddenly change their minds. They're already set in their ways. Life and karma will teach them a lesson eventually. Every multi billion/million company has done or will do some incredibly shady shit that makes people see the light. Companies and their executives have no such thing as morals where money is concerned.
Just look at what happened to yg stans and their papa yg bullshit. Didn't end well at all 
Just look at what happened to yg stans and their papa yg bullshit. Didn't end well at all
huh? was there a time yg fandoms saw thought of yg as a "father" figure? not ironically?
In a lot of people's minds BH/ Hybe= BTS so you aren't allowed to say anything that's not favorable. It's considered a betrayal if you do.
If you complain, people will mock you and say that you are trying to manage their career.
But it's fair game to complain about the other groups because the close family image hasn't been ingrained in people's mind about the other groups as it has for BTS.
People will defend anything Hybe might do, even if it's detrimental to the boys'career, because in their minds a) Hybe can do no wrong and are geniuses and b) somehow they are convinced that since BTS re-signed and have a tiny amount of shares, they agree with everything 100% .
this is what happens when people confuse a boygroups concept with the companys morals lol.
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