I see Txt fans complaining that after 9 months hiatus, Txt only appears on 5 music shows, don’t do Studio Choom or go on variety show like they used to. Not to mention Hybe putting Txt in theaters with 3K capacity for their American tour. Is Hybe mistreating Txt because their priority has started to shift towards new groups like Lesserafim and upcoming Ador group?
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Lol. That's more than most groups get.
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I just find it funny that all the moaarmys on this forum who used to go calling any army who expressed their dissatisfaction with Hybe/BH mantis this, mantis that are now whining and complaining about the company as well. Suddenly their complaints are accepted because it's about TXT being mistreated but they wre ready to throw BTS under the bus before to defend the company. How the tables have turned. I can't wait for Trainee A to debut so they get some reality checked lol
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Theater complaints are also not valid.
1. Other groups who are doing arenas now have already done theaters. Txt have no experience of doing theaters. How can you expect them to move to big arenas directly? There is a process. You have to go step by step. Bighit knows this.
2. Txt never even did online concerts for bighit to know what their demand is for concerts. Those groups who did online concerts know which country has demand for them. That's why they are booking bigger venues. There is no data available about txt's selling capacity. Don't come at me with album sales.
Album sales don't guarantee concert ticket sales. Blackpink are good example of this. Their 2019 tour had empty seats and yg had to mediaplay when they were selling 400k. Then they sold 1.5million in 2020 and yg got them youtube's first ever concert. Youtube and yg both ended up with lossess.
These big venues are expensive to rent and if you don't sell them out, you end up doing lossess. Bighit is smart for doing theaters before arenas. They need to know the demand for txt before moving to bigger venues.
3. Txt have no experience of handling crowds. They have only performed at award shows, joint concerts where they were not headline act. They didn't have to handle the crowd. You have to handle the crowd when touring by yourself. Arena crowds are difficult to handle. If you have never had experience of the crowd it can be overwhelming. This is txt's first tour ffs.
Moas are too young to understand this stuff. Bighit is doing everything for the benefit of txt.
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as an army, i can't wait for trainee A to debut & hybe to really show moas/moarmys what it means when a group "gets mistreated or neglected". most privileged fandom & group under hybe.
doing tiktoks with half the industry, putting them on various big playlists, posting ALL their teasers on a 65+ million subs yt channel (bts can't relate), putting their reality show on yt so they could desperately turn more casuals into fans,... and i could go on, but fans want to complain bc hybe gave them small venues.
Ever thought that MAYBE they know what they are doing when it comes to concerts? it's better to mediaplay they have immediately sold out their venues & the company needing to include more concerts than the other way around. hope enhypen's cb will humble moas & i don't even fw that group
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A genuine question about the concert venue size.
If txt truly have the demand moas claim they have, why haven't they added more shows? As far as I know they only added a date for LA. You can't be serious if you think Bighit is allergic to money when they are trying their hardest to prove that they don't depend on bts
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I just find it funny that all the moaarmys on this forum who used to go calling any army who expressed their dissatisfaction with Hybe/BH mantis this, mantis that are now whining and complaining about the company as well. Suddenly their complaints are accepted because it's about TXT being mistreated but they wre ready to throw BTS under the bus before to defend the company. How the tables have turned. I can't wait for Trainee A to debut so they get some reality checked lol
FACTS!
But these supposed "moaarmys" and "engenesarmy"s will throw bts under the bus in a second to support their fav, they only claim their "ARMY" tag when they have to show superiority over other 4th gen bg fandoms
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I agree that moarmys throw bts under the bus all the time but I haven't seen engenesarmys do it
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That doesn’t even make sense
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Don't lump armygenes together with them, they are not the same
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I don't know but there seems to be something bad happening within hybe especially with bighit. Maybe they fired their staff or they've overworked them but they've been doing nothing but missing the mark recently. Both txt and BTS had unusually long hiatuses. In BTS case it might have been explained away as covid but the anthology album seems to say something else. Nothing they're doing is making sense anymore.
And also holding on to garam despite her having a physical record of level 5 school violence. No sane company would debut that girl with her kind of past. Yet they're fighting tooth and nail for her even when she's far from the most popular member in the group.
Their decisions don't make sense anymore. Especially from a financial standpoint. Garam is doing nothing but losing them fans and money. The txt tour is literally letting money slip through their fingers. The anthology album is a financial loss if you compare it to a new album they could have made by slapping on 3 more new songs (which they obviously have somewhere!) and giving us multiple versions. It's all a mess.
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Theater complaints are also not valid.
1. Other groups who are doing arenas now have already done theaters. Txt have no experience of doing theaters. How can you expect them to move to big arenas directly? There is a process. You have to go step by step. Bighit knows this.
2. Txt never even did online concerts for bighit to know what their demand is for concerts. Those groups who did online concerts know which country has demand for them. That's why they are booking bigger venues. There is no data available about txt's selling capacity. Don't come at me with album sales.
Album sales don't guarantee concert ticket sales. Blackpink are good example of this. Their 2019 tour had empty seats and yg had to mediaplay when they were selling 400k. Then they sold 1.5million in 2020 and yg got them youtube's first ever concert. Youtube and yg both ended up with lossess.
These big venues are expensive to rent and if you don't sell them out, you end up doing lossess. Bighit is smart for doing theaters before arenas. They need to know the demand for txt before moving to bigger venues.
3. Txt have no experience of handling crowds. They have only performed at award shows, joint concerts where they were not headline act. They didn't have to handle the crowd. You have to handle the crowd when touring by yourself. Arena crowds are difficult to handle. If you have never had experience of the crowd it can be overwhelming. This is txt's first tour ffs.
Moas are too young to understand this stuff. Bighit is doing everything for the benefit of txt.
1. Some of the venue they gonna do is the same as their debut showcase three years ago. They did theaters already. And that was all sold out too. This time every single venue was sold out in less then 20 min, some of the venue less then 5 min.
Cue die in different venues during presale:
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2. So far Txt did three Fanlive and one full length concert earlier this year. You obviously don’t follow them if you don’t know they did a concert.
3. Like I said they did have experience with crowd before the lockdown, they did the debut showcase in 6 city all packed. They did a two day hour and half long fanlive (which is not a real concert I know but they did more then what you make it sound like. )
Personally I think the company did the theaters to check the interest from the public. I think it’s possible that future stops in Europe and Asia will be bigger venues.
A genuine question about the concert venue size.
If txt truly have the demand moas claim they have, why haven't they added more shows? As far as I know they only added a date for LA. You can't be serious if you think Bighit is allergic to money when they are trying their hardest to prove that they don't depend on bts
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There was interest. Lots of my friend some even on this site couldn’t get tickets because it was sold out? They did add one extra stop but I would rather they don’t add more. This is their first concert, they going to other countries too, I don’t want them to get over worked or injured.
From some others the fake concerns here is funny. Just say what you think, it’s anon.
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I don't know but there seems to be something bad happening within hybe especially with bighit. Maybe they fired their staff or they've overworked them but they've been doing nothing but missing the mark recently. Both txt and BTS had unusually long hiatuses. In BTS case it might have been explained away as covid but the anthology album seems to say something else. Nothing they're doing is making sense anymore.
And also holding on to garam despite her having a physical record of level 5 school violence. No sane company would debut that girl with her kind of past. Yet they're fighting tooth and nail for her even when she's far from the most popular member in the group.
Their decisions don't make sense anymore. Especially from a financial standpoint. Garam is doing nothing but losing them fans and money. The txt tour is literally letting money slip through their fingers. The anthology album is a financial loss if you compare it to a new album they could have made by slapping on 3 more new songs (which they obviously have somewhere!) and giving us multiple versions. It's all a mess.
I agree with this. BH on Moa side keep posting things randomly.Like a dance practice 1 am when they never release anything that time. A promotion Weverse article a day AFTER the promotion ended? The blue house performance was posted by them 2 hours before the performance calling Moa in for live audience, hours after Moa found out about the event. It seem like either their staff is new or the communication between the different departments just non existent.
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