NJZ nope. The hate was generated by deranged twitter/reddit stans that now will have idols to take the blame for it instead of taking any responsibility for it.
Meanwhile, NJZ antis will start a new hate train against them this time and will never let them forget it.
Better let the sleeping dogs lie. Nothing to gain here.
MHJ, I don't think showed any remorse or concern at all. So I don't even think she cares for apologies.
This is falsehood. I ALWAYS stood on business for Mamamoo. Like I said, OH was a MUCH bigger forum than AKP during third gen, and I was always fighting with other girl group stans to put some RESPECT on their name. They triggered me enough to even start making videos about them for around 4 years.
Any OG MooMoo knows my contributions to the Radish Field.
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My posts were way, way better than the trash little D writes on here that nobody reads.
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So let's settle this now, AKP. I have BEEN about this achievement posting LIFE.
And nobody can say **** to me, because my footage was even used in an official Mamamoo documentary after their team contacted me and asked for permission, so I don't want to EVER hear I lack in any way as a MooMoo.
This forum wouldn't know what to do with me if I went full MooMoo. It's because of David's shit posting that I decide to leave everyone in peace and focus on the news kids on the block instead.
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Iz okay yama, we know you worked hard but the grass never got greener
At the end of the day, nobody knows the work environment and the people surrounding them more than the girls themselves. I know reddit likes to pretend they have the deepest and keenest insights on all things related to this dispute, but we only have small slivers of information compared to the members.
And it's not like it's just them. It's their parents. It's everyone on their creative team, from performance directors to producers.
We really think MHJ is Jean Grey and manipulating all of these people to stand with her?
It also reaches a point where it's disrespectful to the girls, even in light of their ages. It's this notion that fans know what's best for them, more than they do, and we should be making the call on what's best for their careers. I hate that.
They've made their choice, and have not deviated from it, and looking at howHYBE have treated them since last April, and even before this shit show started, I'm supportive of their decision.
Do I think MHJ is a good person? Of course not. But I think she's been good to NewJeans and genuinely wants the best for them. If they had chosen to side with HYBE, I think they'd be in an even worse situation, knowing now how much the current CEO hates them, not to mention BSH.
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Let's agree to disagree. I have a different perspective of MHJ. I will critique her for her antics, but I like to keep that separate from girls (fully respecting and understanding that girls have more than a soft spot for her)
Easy. They don't think anyone will be able to create concepts of a similar calibre to hers. There's a reason she is/was a sought-after individual, after she left SM.
Well thats underestimating other people creativity.
MHJ is good at what she does no doubt, but rn NJ is big enough that any concept they would do would hit big. They're limiting themselves severely by tying their success to MHJ existence.
Nothing disgusts me as much as HYBE clearly being responsible for the leak of NJ's pre-debut footage and medical history.
For nearly a year now I've been saying this is about choosing the lesser of two evils, and MHJ hasn't done anything to harm the girls unlike HYBE.
As for the texts about the girls, that got debunked ages ago by Bunnies using the information that was made public after the first injunction trial. I'll dig it up later when I have some time.
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And i dont wish the girls to choose any evil. Neither MHJ nor HYBE. They are so young, why do they have to put their careers+dreams on line for her?
I get it, its wishful thinking on my side but i dont want to defend MHJ terrible antics just because i support the girls. They deserve better, and so does others that got affected by MHJ actions.
Also fk hybe for the predebut videos release. I hope the sinkhole Daisy is manifesting hits target next time :c
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Also, let's not jump to conclusions and deduce that all text messages are real, just because one set of them are.
We've already seen HYBE media play against Hanni by taking her texts out of context and maliciously editing them, only for the full text conversation to be released and expose their attempt to distort the truth.
Likewise, with those infamous MHJ texts. You know who released them? Lee Jinho. Google him and see how credible of a source he is, especially in light of recent events. It was also revealed that those "texts" were created by him, using very dubious transcripts from the court case, and a lot of them were actually things MHJ said about BSH and not NJs.
I'm not saying MHJ can't still be a shit person, but we have to get all the facts right to have honest and thoughtful dialogues in this thread instead of the mud slinging we usually engage in more often than not.
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Yama ik SH wasnt proven but workplace bullying has been confirmed. Have you read the messages that are being used as evidence in court? They are so vile. They wouldn't be used as evidence if they were fake no?
I always was suspicious of those message cause of the source being hybe and their cronies but the Employee B case went to court and got a verdict. Its not just hearsay anymore.
I would like to believe the other texts are fake but so far they seem legit. I don't even remember MHJ directly denying them either (correct me if I am wrong - i think she said smth about context but never said they were fake)
Oh boy, I am least bit surprised with the MHJ verdict.
I still had some tiny wee bit of delusional suspicion that maybe those text were altered maliciously but nah, if they went to court as evidence, fk that.
Now I am even more upset with those text from MHJ about the girls. If these are true the other ones must be too.
Free NJZ girlies from these terrible people ugh. May they find peace and success on their own terms. 🙏
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Amazing debut, still lives rent free in my head to this day.