What did NJ even bring to the table that wasn’t already there?
It’s more like K-pop before and after Bangtan.
What did NJ even bring to the table that wasn’t already there?
It’s more like K-pop before and after Bangtan.
voice is still solid, but the song is kinda meh.
People won't really believe them because they (more like Julie iirc) already had controversy and people already gave them benefit of the doubt
Public apologies don’t mean much once you’ve already been declared guilty.
They should’ve just stuck with the company’s statement and waited for things to cool down.
I'm impressed by the courage it takes to do these photoshoots, but this time the results aren't there.
The idea is there but not the result
Black hair >>>
Answer on OP’s thread
Blaming and critisizing Jennie for appearing on " The idol " or Lisa performing in crazy horse ( which idc personnaly) have more sense than blaming their Training Evalutions saying the N-word.
Like please, since when an trainee have the choice.
How many times have we heard idols talk about how cruel and brutal the trainee system is?
I literally saw a girl crying because her trainer was forcing her to do a split on the floor.
Trainee Momo was eating ice cubes to lose weight—do you really think she did that just because she wanted to? No. JYP straight-up threatened her, saying that if she didn’t lose weight, she wouldn’t debut.
And now you’re telling me that 16-17-year-old trainees could just walk up to Yang Suk-shit and say to face to face, “No, I won’t do it”?
That idiot wouldn’t even feel the slightest bit of shame telling them to pack their bags and go home so he could find other trainees willing to rap his damn N-word songs.
You know what, I’ll go even far and say that any idol who doesn’t have a control over their career shouldn’t be blamed for singing an N-word song.
Yes, I’m talking about those nugu groups and rookie idols who did it.
If you want to swear, swear on their companies.
Damn, I don't even know why I should explain something so logical.
The trainee who screamed and cried while doing a split on the floor as the trainer pushed her down even further.
And mind you, this was during the 3rd-gen era.
Display MoreYou mean, Americans, or people in general? Tbf both true.
1. Never blamed you or said it's you. I said your fandom, not you! Big difference, so chill.
2. Just because it was their trainee days, it's still not an excuse. It's like saying, you can use the word till you officially became a celeb, not just a singer. Makes no sense.
3. I didn't say they have the power over YG or any other agency, but do you think they would force them to use the word? It's just no one cared, that's all.
4. Again, my comment was not about you.
I don't analyze anyone online. I just see some posts from people I actually follow. That's the reason I usually see the toxicity online.
1) 4) Then try giving your opinion on what I said instead, not on "my fandom." You keep showing me someone else's behavior when I didn't contribute anything to any harassment on mamamoo.
2) 3) Because you think a trainee can refuse ?
I'm surprised that someone who's been in K-pop for so long doesn't know how cruel and brutal training are.
Like i've saw literally kids crying because their company forced them do a split on the floor.
Momo's diet was literally an ice cube for weight loss.
You really gonna convince me that Rosé's choose to cover a N-word song ,really ?
Of course, the company can force trainee, having seen it several times, it is no secret to anyone.
If an idol chooses to cover or release a song about the "N" word, I'll give you the card.
But a trainee? No, man, if someone blames trainees knowing full well that the trainee gets no credit for their behavior... no, no.
And the company that films these videos?
How can you blame the trainees? Do you think they have the right to refuse, when they're all fighting for a chance to debut?
If you're going to blame someone, do it logically... instead of blaming a trainee, blame an idol who has control over her career.
This is getting ridiculous.
Display MoreThey can speak English, right? Your fandom trying to use Hwasa and Mamamoo as a scapegoat even tho she doesn't speak English at all. Your fandom never did the right thing, even tho BP did more than just saying the N word. Never apologized or stop doing it. They did multiple things even when they weren't trainees. Or did you forget that?
At least MAMAMOO fans bombed the girls with comments to apologize!
Saying, it was just trainee days, it's such a lame excuse. We could say the same when Hwasa covered Beyonce's song, she doesn't speak English, and she was given the lyrics on spot, or when MMM did black face, the company told them to do it.
Let's just accept it. Most people in your fandom, and to be fair in many Kpop fandoms trying to hide these things.
Come on, you know what word people used against Asians, and it starts with "Y".
1. “Your fandom” isn’t me. Why do you keep blaming me? Grow up!
2. Calling it “Trainee Days” isn’t an excuse—it was literally trainee days.
3. Anyone who thinks a trainee has the power to stand up to their company has a lower IQ than an ostrich.
4. I never paid attention to Hwasa’ or any other group N-word incident, I don't see why I should care if she apologizes or not.
Spending all your time analyzing toxic people online is getting concerning.
The worst part is that Miyeon was still under YG when BP debuted. YG told her, her turn would come, but she never debuted and so she left the company.
Agree, the Rosé-Miyeon line we'll never see 💔
Damn, rookie Jenlisa was killing it ^^’
Lol, miyeon too😅
K-pop has always been a niche, a big niche with a large audience but smale recognition.
But the fact that these major American awards invented the K-pop categories already indicates the value of K-pop in the music market. A big step
It's not too late, maybe we'll have someone to take over, who knows