NGL, i thought it was pretty bad when i saw it. Plus i didn’t find the girls particularly “easy on the eyes” if you know what i mean.
Posts by Kouss
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This is the heart of the problem. NO ONE is saying they couldn't do that. If YG had said, This is a pre-release and the girls will make their debut in April with a full line-up, everyone would have been fine with it.
But instead, YGE CHOOSE to DEBUT them with a subpar sound and unfinished line-up and instead of being honest about it, they called it a debut. So it looks like, YGE is upset with how their real debut performed and now is tryna juice numbers and change how their actual debut goes because they didn't like their real debut.
And to be real, it isn't really a problem in real life. Its a problem in terms of inter-fandom relationships. Baemon's fandom is running around using a non-debut stats as a debut to juice numbers. Does this matter in real life? No, but it terms of fandoms getting along in the broader kpop community, Baemon's fandom is starting with a target on their backs because it looks fake, cynical and success-obsessed. -
I’ve seen some slimy things done by kpop fans to chase achievement tweets/records. This by far takes the cake.
If Baemon’s fandom wants to start off this way, go right ahead, but when their fandom starts getting more hate, this is def gonna be the reason why. It just comes off as delusional.
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tbh their concept isn't really cute to me it's just teen pop
Literally what i came to right. Its teen-pop/love sick music. Plus its just fundamentally produced better than what Twice was releasing (atleast for western standards). Super Shy maybe was veering more into cute territory, but previous releases were not and more teen-pop.
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This is what Kpop has been missing. Been into Kpop since 2011, and very much gives 2nd Gen.
It's kinda telling and ironic how people complain about the similarities with HYBE groups but put all the other big companies whom also have recycled sounds on the back burner because y'all are company biased and new Kpop fans. I remember people celebrating back in the day for HYBE getting big, now all people talk about is shitting on HYBE because they became one of the Big 3. Sorry.. YG is gone and I say this as a Kpop fan who came into this genre at 2011, the height of YGs success.
And Moka is stunning!
The critique is due to them being too similar. There’s a difference between, let’s say YG and ppl saying BP and 2NE1 are clones and sounds similar versus two groups close in age & same gen having the same sound.
No one would say RV and Aespa sounds super similar, or f(x). Twice and Itzy sounded very different. I think some Nmixx sounds (especially newer stuff) could be sung by Itzy. But these are all different gens.
Even SM, who promoted 127 and Dream at the same time, made an effort to give them distinct sounds. I think Dream is starting to sounds more like 127, but for the 1st 4 years of their career, definitely not.
So please stop trying that “whataboutism” this criticism or acting like it’s hate only because it’s Hybe. No one is saying LSFM and NJ sound the same or TxT and Enhypen….. Like maybe, that sounds are similar, it’s not just a hate boner for Hybe lol.
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A gig is a gig ig
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Gist is super talented and one of my favorite artist. Not only is he a gifted vocalist, but he also can hold his own when he raps. He’s definitely in a similar lane to Wonstein (both gifted vocally and rapping) and it’s why they’re both two of my favorites.
I didn’t like the album as much as previous releases. Emotion will always be my favorite, i remember i listened to it nonstop last year.
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Treasure 2.0 here we come
This is said in jest, if they chart and serve a great song, then power too them lol. We gotta wait and see.
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JYP wanted a global group to appeal to the west ig... which is so stupid bc kpop already appeals to the west so I dont get it either
EXACTLY. They created a group, for a market, that exist, but its already filled with kpop groups, so why not just make a kpop group? Or even go the XG route and be a kpop group, but release only english music?
The western members is only a good idea if they plan to strictly stay in the western eco system and promote like a tradtional GG, which hasn't been the case. Its crazy how people get paid to make these decision, but still don't understand kpop at all. -
If you question why would charlie puth even know the existence of this rookie group. The answer is this viral cover of Ahyeon.
Or because he’s a C list celebrity who will do anything for engagement and happy to milk kpop company money to PAY HIM to help these random girls?????
Like y’all think little homie found BaeMon and was like “OMG i HAVE to work with these girls”
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Who’s getting excited about Charlie puth music?
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Lol. "Underlying problems"
Yall just make shit up.
I say it once, i say it a million times. Kpop fans are fucking horrible.
I took about a 9 month break from Kpop. And what I learned is that everyone laughs at Kpop fans...a lot of it is because of shit like this and why Kpop will never be anything beyond a niche.
You people live in a very small bubble.
Kpop artists are great and talented. Kpop fans are the ugly boils on Kpop's ass.
Their debut single didn’t chart at all in korea. This is in fact, and underlying problem that a new member won’t fix. Everyone heard the song, they just didn’t like it. No amount of Youtube Ads is gonna make them popular if they don’t show off an interesting concept & music. You can trash kpop fans all you want, but the results speak for themselves.
If you’re happy with them being female treasure, then ig there isn’t any problems.
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Ahyeon just generate a bit more interest in the group.
It’s up to YG whether they will do well or not.
from people who knew who she is. I feel like a lot of kpop fans just checked them out because they were YG and after BP. But honestly a new member doesn’t fix underlying problems.
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this is the funniest thing i’ve seen in Kpop and a minute and it’s verging towards Japanese visual novel territory.
Complete madness and i know there’s girls somewhere EATING it up
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Here in the US, i heard ETA in a lower end Luxury brand store. I was pretty surprised and was trying to not noticeably sing along.
Not in a major city either, so also pretty surprising.
But i’ve also heard some BTS like Blackswan in my local grocery story in a town of 30k, so it’s really a mix. I live in conservative area with a really low asian population, so it’s a big difference from hearing it in my area vs SoCal
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Good music will save them and an interesting concept. Many groups have “popular” members and the group still flops.
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ohhh this is hard
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You want him to be gay so bad
It's perfectly possible that this means nothing
Let's not assume
I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy and gay erasure. Again, if this was. girl, no one would be making the argument “well who knows if he’s straight”. But when it’s a guy, magically it’s not related to dating and we can’t infer his sexuality. Again, it’s just a rumor so who knows and we might never know. Basically just a gossip thread, but getting a little annoyed with the dismissive nature, when that same thoughts aren’t brought up when it’s a guy and girl.