IVE would be a flop without wonyoung

Nothing but facts

Rei, Gaeul, Leeseo, Liz and Yujin >>>>>> your faves

Disagree. Izone was a flop even with wonyoung

Maybe they wouldn't be as popular but they would still be big. Eleven and Love dive are amazing songs.

Funny seeing this especially after Yujin‘s variety show directly helped boosting LOVE DIVE to #1 and After Like‘s ULs increased a lot after AFTER LIKE was placed during her variety show.

On top of that, Yujin asked the PDs herself to include After like in the variety show. Homegirl hardcarries the group promotions

but IVE have Wonyoung

Wonyoung was the pilot drill imo

she had fame to carry them for a bit and then they put out bangers and outshone Wonyoung's Carryover fame.

While most post-produce groups collapsed, only Starship kept WJSN going, even if they did not hit the top tier - that speaks very well about the agency.

Even today IVE and LSF are the only 2 viable produce alum groups and IVE has far better track record than LSF.

Who is stopping from proving the point, by buying out Wonyoung's contract and have Ive without her?

What do you expect - everyone should be stupid enough to be triggered and demand that WY be fired?

Get a life.

when yujin is working her ass off on varieties right there smh

I mean this just remind me of Miss A. Suzy carry the whole group and Wonyoung may do the same, but it didn't.