i-fans don't realise that album sales are all online internet talk, but in real life people associate idols with their hit songs and projects

All these daily posts about what album sales are broken or what other records some dudes have.

But in real life, no one is talking about "oh these idols with 999k+ album sales". These dick measuring contests have no real value.

Hit songs and hit drama series are what people associate idols and success with.

SNSD's songs are still being played on shows 10 years later, so are T-ara's Roly Poly and Bo Peep Bo Peep etc. (just to throw out examples).

Suzy's still being called Nation's First Love, given that title after Architecture 101.

All these album sales talk are all i-fans online talk, but literally has no real life value.

agreed

Exactly. People recognise famous songs, dramas or movies, but literally who goes around asking "yeah but you know what numbers this album got". I suspect those people never had real interactions with other people.

Like people know Hotel del Luna, or like Exo's Growl was covered by groups years after, but who talks about which album got what sales.

You can bring a horse to a forest, but you can't make the horse see the water hit the trees or something like that.

Yep Yep. Saw Celine Dion in Vegas and never did I check how many albums she sold...LOL. I don't even know most of her songs but only went to hear that Titanic song live. She was incredible.

By this standard then, Kick It is a hit because everyone knew it, covered it, it appeared on shows and still appears on shows and gets played at baseball games. But I bet that’s not the type of song you’re talking about when you say this.

being covered by random people is not a hit

we see a lot of covers in youtube or tv. you telling me some fandom counted the most covered song in youtube, tv, etc? weird

BG stans are becoming delulus and making the bar very LOW regarding what a hit is. lol

No one irl is worried about where a song landed on the charts either, or how long it charted on Melon, but about whether they see and hear it all the time. But go on. I knew you weren’t serious about the idea that you weren’t going to use stats and charts to measure success. It’s just sales you want to throw out. Go on with your bad self.

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By this standard then, Kick It is a hit because everyone knew it, covered it, it appeared on shows and still appears on shows and gets played at baseball games. But I bet that’s not the type of song you’re talking about when you say this.

oh, if Kick it is a hit, then what even is a hit now?

Then let's also talk about how most people in the elusive GP use music as background noise while they are working. And how people overestimate the general population's interest in music

The people that care about sales and charting are: success stans, companies, idols

Normal average listener just wants to listen to music lol. Doesnt matter what it is.

I agree no one cares about numbers my only quirk with this is that by international standards none of the songs you listed are well known outside of South Korea so maybe you meant k-stans? There is only one Kpop group that if you play their most popular western song will general international public recognize because it was everywhere. Other than that doesn't matter if millions streamed no one knows any of these Kpop groups outside of the Kpop hub.

No one but k-pop fans care about charts or sales.

Huge sales are only good in the sense that it means a group's doing well, gaining huge revenues, which means the company will invest more in the group and the group will have a longer lifespan.