Posts by imean

I noticed that this guild only added 2 pages since I was gone for nearly half a year

this guild really is dead huh

hi it's me again

I forgot my password for a while ago but now it's all resolved

too bad for my original acc I can't opened it again

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That was my original point. They lost the lead when they had it and have failed to recover since. Unless they make a dramatic change in who they're working with, they're going to continue to be behind. I would say maybe they should focus on China/Japan but they don't exactly have the best track record of treating their Chinese idols well lol

yes I agree , I was just adding my point .

Since they already succeeded conquering China/ Japan market before now only 1 big market left they hasn't conquering and looking at other company succeeding in US, they wanted to have their turn too. Like SM today is the same like SM before (only minus LSM) so their obsession doesn't change. I predict riize will be soon send to US like aespa's . They already signed to RCA records.

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Disagree. They fumbled the bag way before HYBE even came on the scene.

SNSD was HUGE back in 2011/2012 and they chose to release The Boys as the internationally-marketed song. While the song is amazing, it is not suited for Western audiences. That sound was already dated back in 2011/2012. Then you have EXO, who out of all SM groups had the biggest potential to go viral in the West and SM, again, released practically nothing that would appeal to western audiences.

We could even go further and talk about how Pink Tape, f(x)'s album, could've went somewhere internationally but their absolute lack of understanding what is suitable for Western audiences is their pitfall. Look at Aespa's english releases... they are cute songs but not the kind that are going to top the Billboard Hot 100.

you are mistaken my point

Yes before they had chances but fumbled the bag. But now, I am talking about todays situation. They had 0 chance to make it in US rn. Maybe they will had chance If they work with someone who has influence in the west

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SM is absolutely terrible at understanding the Western/International market. Where SM thrives is in Asia. However, with kpop becoming more and more global, unless they switch things up and change strategies, they are going to continue to lag behind.

there's no way they could compete with Hybe-Scooter Braun influence in the west. Look how much work he's done to promote their artist in Spotify, radios and tiktoks . The difference is heaven and hell. Besides lack of casuals interest in the west, SM is terrible to promoting their new music (for example: the song was put at the bottom rankings in Spotify playlists, lack of paid promotions in yt shorts & tiktoks, no spotify premium merchs and booth all over the world to gauge interest, no collaboration with major artist/ major company for a song and didn't send it to the radios etc etc) so the exposure was minimum . So how do we expect some new listeners to tune in?

Maybe just maybe if SM is smart , they should take a punt and work with Simon Cowell .

SM suck

aespa big girls making money...

aespa big girls making money

Quote from Elbereth

From the spoiler so far we know that the song is bit more upbeat than the demo and it seems like they added a rap or new section?? it definitely picked up my curiosity a bit more.

Yeah sound good so far

congrats for your graduation by the way

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They have a bigger fandom than red velvet . But with regards to Korean GP or even international charting I don’t think the difference is much. I’m pretty sure psycho is still the best performing song from SM internationally.

You always downplaying aespa international stats when currently they had the better stats internationally speaking as an SM group

the preview looks surprisingly good and there're rap parts too

intrigued

Quote from Elbereth

Raye demo, it's exactly the same.p

Yeah it is

Literally lts 2.0

SM and warner never got the memo afterall

I don't have any expectations success wise unless there's miracle and Better things became tiktok hit

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Maybe the aesthetic will be leaning more toward kwangya-mermaid-cutesy? The song itself (if the demo is anything to go by) actually doesn't sound all that cutesy. It's more bright but chill? Similar to LTS, maybeeee a little bit more interesting because of the instrument but still in that same vibe you know.

yup probably tropical vibes too

which demo you talking about?

regarding the first demo, I read that the demo is not "better things". The demo that is circulating is a song has been rejected by SM.

but for the second demo, some mys suspected yes it is

edit:

I think so too

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The second one..... i used to play that game on mobile game machine thingy (i forget the name). I can't find the tweet now, but i've seen what might have been clues from their teams (like choreofrapher, stylist, etc) for this and it included some kwangya-esque items so definitely curious this is not purely real world-cutesy as we thought??? The flower teaser isn't exactly cutesy (or at least imo)

so kwangya cutesy?

personally I don't really mind the theme only hoping that SM will support this english single (really really promote it ) and not paying it dust like before

I want to add:

interesting concept too it's seems

Quote from Elbereth

From this poster and their pinterest, the aesthetic lean into the cutesy or real world type. I was hoping for something more like Hold on Tight but let's see how this is going

cutesy I guess (let's hope the title will be tiktok friendly)

the twitter acc is legit af, since op spoiled the right release date too

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have you take a peek at what they just posted?

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this is for their english single in august

let's see and hopefully better than lts

there's twit acc who already spoiled it on July 21