Why the fudge is English so hard?

    Example in my language America is the continent and the country is USA


    Now I had a very unpleasant talk somewhere online with native speakers who got hella mad on my for saying exactly this since "america is not a continent bla bla"


    seriously what the fudge? Why is learning English so complicated


    Same happend to me with the word of blood orange since aparently what yall call a grapefruit is called blood orange in my language but than again someone saif those would be two different fruits in English


    I am not fluently in English so sorry that I don't understand how an American or British person forms sentenses and uses different words cause I may write a lot like my teacher in school told me to, so it's just very hard to understand some things. And no you arn't helping by yelling at me online for saying that as said before America is a continent.


    :( I try my best but apparently it seems to not be good enough, especially not when you write with a native speaker :nob:


    Anyone else who learnd English as their 2nd language has similiar problems?

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    Don't feel bad because of entitled people who are most likely monolinguals and have never made an effort to learn a language beyond the most basic vocabulary like greetings.


    I think I've gotten quite good at English over the course of years, but I've been in similar situations in the past. Try not to mind them, really. Focus on your own achievements and pat yourself on the back for making progress.

    Learning a new language is in general not easy for most people. English isn't my 1st language too so don't worry you will get better.

    And I agree America is a continent, USA the country.

    Technically the continent would be North America, not solely America, as there's also Central and South America.

    I'm an English teacher. I agree. English is sooooo confusing.

    especially hate waiters in restaurant who try to teach me how to pronounce my wine correctly

    I think the major problem is the fact that though you admit to not knowing English very well, yet you say something like Hella. Do you even know where that slang comes from? I see a lot of people here do that, I don't fuck with online communities for the most part, but seeing people who are clearly not native speakers trying to use phrases or words that only natives would use is basically CA. Not surprising that it is used by KPOP fans since their idols love to do the same lol


    So my advice to you is, don't learn English from the internet, and if you want to not come off like a clown, speak proper English. I am fluent in English and Spanish, reading and writing too, and dabble in other languages as well. But I would never attempt to speak to a native of any country in their slang. I always laugh at the clowns in this forum who clearly don't speak English natively but try to speak in Twitter English or talk like they're from the hood. Natives may not point it out, but trust me, we're laughing. :)

    But a blood orange and a grapefruit ARE completely different things.

    Blood Oranges are delicious, and their juice is delicious and I make a lovely sorbet from Blood Oranges.


    Grapefruit are trashfruit and belong in the garbage.

    Quote from Broasted Confit of Mammoth (165)

    Technically the continent would be North America, not solely America, as there's also Central and South America.

    Actually in school I learned that America is 1 continent but I realised in other parts of the world people consider North America and South America as 2 separate continents.

    English is not hard. It is difficult.

    Quote from Poached Light Beer Lamb (434)

    Actually in school I learned that America is 1 continent but I realised in other parts of the world people consider North America and South America as 2 separate continents.

    in that situation, grouping them back together as "the americas" would help to build a compromise.

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    :( I try my best but apparently it seems to not be good enough, especially not when you write with a native speaker :nob:

    It is not an issue of correctness but rather there is a disconnect between Technically Correct English and just what people use everyday.


    Language is tied to the culture and the culture can dictate things to be true in a native speaker's mind that might not actually be true.

    Even native speakers, I've seen, misues its and it's, break and brake, alongside many other things.


    Stay confident! Everyone's vernacular is personalized and can conflict with what you learned. Even the word (please don't axe this, mods, please)

    the term "booby" used to refer to an idiot! its just a woman's chest was referred to - earlier on - as bubby and both have converged throughout use. America is often considered seperated into the North and South parts but to refer to all of it as America is rare but still correct!


    You have perfect english from what I can tell and already picking up on general slang, which is a really good sign that you've already mastered most of english. (most native speakers don't really have a grasp on a lot of english lmao)

    English is probably the easiest language to learn.

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