KPop shedding Korean trend is excellerating - cannot be avoided

The album is called Arirang.

lol. Koreans should be proud of their culture and language. If you want to pander to the West, go ahead. You will lose your identity and start singing the American national anthem.

Hobi has said album has both English and Korean.. so don't worry , it will pander to everyone. I think they will have one English track like they did in 2020-2021 and rest all will be Korean English mix .

Bts gave us "Dynamite" in BE album but never forget they also gave Korean songs in the same album "Life Goes On", "Blue & Grey," "Telepathy," "Dis-ease," "Stay".

People just ignore this and think bts having English song names means all English songs. Where as they have only 3 group songs which are fully English.

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Given the lack of success of IU, who has a habit of writing her own lyrics which makes most of her songs to be in Korean, in the West that is unlikely

If you want to succeed in the West and sing songs in English, then to me that is a English song. That is not a Kpop genre. Kpop with the word K to me is Korean pop and there should be Korean words in it.

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If you want to succeed in the West and sing songs in English, then to me that is a English song. That is not a Kpop genre. Kpop with the word K to me is Korean pop and there should be Korean words in it.

It's called Kpop because it's pop music originating from Korea, not because they sing in Korean. They never sang entirely in Korean. If you want to make it about language, then you have to pedantically judge everything on a song-by-song basis, and no one wants to have to do that. Who even decides the proper ratio of Korean to English?

What exactly is the point of kpop if it has no Korean identity? That's just be... pop.

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It's called Kpop because it's pop music originating from Korea, not because they sing in Korean. They never sang entirely in Korean. If you want to make it about language, then you have to pedantically judge everything on a song-by-song basis, and no one wants to have to do that. Who even decides the proper ratio of Korean to English?

I don't agree. I will never call a song a C song if it's original version is in English. Hell, I wouldn't even know if it is a C song if I don't know the song was composed and wrote in China. When I hear a C and K song, I expect to hear Chinese and Korean. Yes, Lay has songs in English but there is a Chinese version too. I don't follow Jackson Wang so I'm not sure. I think his songs are in English. If it is then I wouldn't call it a C song. Henry has songs in English. I don't even know if they are C or K.

And are you sure the song is originated from Korea? I think music writers and producers are global now.

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I don't agree. I will never call a song a C song if it's original version is in English. Hell, I wouldn't even know if it is a C song if I don't know the song was composed and wrote in China. When I hear a C and K song, I expect to hear Chinese and Korean. Yes, Lay has songs in English but there is a Chinese version too. I don't follow Jackson Wang so I'm not sure. I think his songs are in English. If it is then I wouldn't call it a C song.

And are you sure the song is originated from Korea? I think music writers and producers are global now.

If the record label and the artist are both based in Korea, then that's the song's country of origin. Buying unreleased songs from foreign writers & producers doesn't count. If it did, then we could say Kpop already doesn't exist as a definable entity, as that's been standard practice for years. They just take English demos and replace the lyrics with Korean ones, meaning there's often less work involved when keeping the original songs in English.

You can define what's Kpop and what isn't based on language if you want, but I've laid out why I think that's a pretty bad idea. It's really about which country's music industry was responsible for releasing the song. This is the criteria that makes the most sense, as you can still define everything. If we decide a Kpop song isn't actually Kpop because it's entirely in English, then what is it? It doesn't become American pop, for example, as it wasn't released by the American music industrey. It still has to be something.

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If the record label and the artist are both based in Korea, then that's the song's country of origin. Buying unreleased songs from foreign writers & producers doesn't count. If it did, then we could say Kpop already doesn't exist as a definable entity, as that's been standard practice for years. They just take English demos and replace the lyrics with Korean ones, meaning there's often less work involved when keeping the original songs in English.

You can define what's Kpop and what isn't based on language if you want, but I've laid out why I think that's a pretty bad idea. It's really about which country's music industry was responsible for releasing the song. This is the criteria that makes the most sense, as you can still define everything. If we decide a Kpop song isn't actually Kpop because it's entirely in English, then what is it? It doesn't become American pop, for example, as it wasn't released by the American music industrey. It still has to be something.

I guess I'm saying it loses it's identity if it's not sung in Korean or Chinese. If I don't know who is the singer, or the originating country or follow C and K music and I just hear a song sung entirely in English on the radio, then to me it is a English song.