Newjeans are stomping on Ive on every award voting

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    because hybe stans are weirdos who vote for all of the company groups just like other company stans

    the power of company stans

    Cause I think IVE fans are mostly popular among the general public and the general public don't care about these types of awards

    Newjeans definitely seems to have the most support from Hybe stans. Lesserafim doesn't get this support because many Hybe stans probably consider them "tainted" since they include already debuted idols like Sakura and Chaewon. Maybe they consider them CJ's leftovers.


    Lesserafim only has wizones and ssamkura stans to depend on, the rest is up to GP. Same with Ive actually, they depend on Wizones and Ahnyeongz stans, but because of WY's popularity, they have much more GP recognition than LSRFM. They can hit 600k UL while LSRFM is limited to 400k UL right now. If LSRFM continues to make waves in Korean entertainment news headlines and shows, they could see their GP popularity improve.

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    Newjeans definitely seems to have the most support from Hybe stans. Lesserafim doesn't get this support because many Hybe stans probably consider them "tainted" since they include already debuted idols like Sakura and Chaewon. Maybe they consider them CJ's leftovers.


    Lesserafim only has wizones and ssamkura stans to depend on, the rest is up to GP. Same with Ive actually, they depend on Wizones and Ahnyeongz stans, but because of WY's popularity, they have much more GP recognition than LSRFM. They can hit 600k UL while LSRFM is limited to 400k UL right now. If LSRFM continues to make waves in Korean entertainment news headlines and shows, they could see their GP popularity improve.

    This was about Ive and NJ but you decided to make it about LSF...

    The mental gymnastics, haha!

    It's pretty obvious what is going on, they are only doing well in votings where BTS fans can vote for them while still voting for BTS. If it's a music show voting with IVE vs NJs or anything similar it's completely opposite results. It's the same reason That That is leading SOTY vote for MMA - ARMY voting power.

    That just says their fandoms are more organized. I don’t think GOT7 is bigger than BP or that Treasure is bigger than TXT just because they were ahead of them in mama voting.

    IVE fans are lazy with voting because IVE has the qualifications to win on their own without voted so they aren't that concerned about it. As for NJs, as others have said, they have the advantage of company stans. Either way I don't think it matters. Voting for awards have always been pointless because the award shows gives the awards to whoever they want. Voting is just a way for these shows to rake in extra money through ads and clicks.

    ive is nominated for 7 , there's a limit to 3 voting per account. you can tell their fandom is getting spread out to thin

    You know there’s a thing called CORE FANDOM? Core fandom is the one who votes, streams consistently, and is usually organized. Newjeans simply amasses better core fandom (MHJ’s Phoning strategy works) and stronger domestic core fandom.

    nj's domestic fanbase is massive and more loyal than the average gg fanbase (ie. mostly young women). they have the unnie market on lock

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    You know there’s a thing called CORE FANDOM? Core fandom is the one who votes, streams consistently, and is usually organized. Newjeans simply amasses better core fandom (MHJ’s Phoning strategy works) and stronger domestic core fandom.

    thats hardly true, NewJeans just has hybe (mainly BTS) stasn voting for them in categories where they aren't competition, just look at Top 10, IVE are like 5 places in front of NewJeans because hybe stans vote for their fave there and not for NewJeans


    NewJeans core fanbase seams pretty small if you also look at music show voting which falls behind Ive and even leeserafim in voting

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