Posts by korea10japan

I expected nothing more than 300k but wow that was fast! Congrats kids

Can’t wait to listen to the album

Probably iu or bts

Impact wise since rollin missed eligibility then maybe NL could put up a fight in judges vote.

This is my favorite look besides the first batch. Giselle looks funny though as if she’s about to bust some tricks to go through laser beams tsk

I’m so curious about aenergy, I want to see them perform all songs in the showcase.

They took it to the next level this time the budget jumped even further. They even get to have these mini series on this whole AI theme. I don’t think anyone in their company or even other company ever got the same treatment as Aespa rn.

Does anyone have a list of 2020’s top 200 mid-year digital chart?

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well there is a bread related thread somewhere i just created it...

and we're mere mortals who can't afford top notch bread firing kpop variety toasters... gotta shell our the big bucks won

Send immediately

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bread is never ok

look at the amount of bread related injuries in kpop...it should be banned altogether

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Momo what a weird game but it made me hungry. Why my toaster don’t work like that

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Actually next week NL have a big chance

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Can they give this kid a win already? she’s never backing out

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I think u r talking about ugc? It was removed from billboard. Tik tok isn't counted yet I think.

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Yes that’s the one, wow my memory was wayyyy different tsk. Thank god.

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TikTok does not add to bb chart

I heard artists can copyright the songs used on TikTok now and will be counted? Can’t remember the details but it was posted either late last year or beginning of the year.

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Can we compare points from 2018 to 2019?

Can we compare points from 2020 to 2021 properly? The charts seems to have changed and gone through so many phases in 2020 itself. Even 2021 it's so different.

They think they billboard. They want to be different every time 💀they can’t keep up with how people consume music anymore. Like I heard even Tik tok was included in streams in Billboard chart.

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Is it weird to include TTN’s 2017 index points to the total from 2018-present? it seems 2017 and 2018 aren’t even comparable. Look how low 2017’s numbers were.

Not even 2021 look that low

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Exactly the different formulas made no sense lol. Some years high points and other years very low. Do u have how much the #1 song of 2017 got? It was tragic compared to its overall data if my memory serves me right.

At present I think the formula is mostly constant but uls and dls r absolutely tanking. I do wish they disclosed the numbers tho for streams and dls.

2017 yearly index points (which Gaon deleted only shortly after publicizing it iirc in jan2018)

https://web.archive.org/web/20180826022905/http://gaonchart.co.kr/main/section/chart/online.gaon?nationGbn=T&serviceGbn=ALL&termGbn=yea

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Yea there were digital points before 2018 but they changed how it was calculated many times over so cant be compared with anything 2018- unfortunately. None really bothered to look/use the digital points when stream and downloads data was available. It woudlnt surprise me the digital point system back then was more intended to show revenue.

What about 2018 vs 2021? U think they’re comparable, like with 2021’s low ass points, it feels like people are just not listening to music as much anymore

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I'll honestly say this gaon actually finding a formula for gaon points 2018 onwards helped looking at the actual success of songs. And the placements of the songs on yec made sense.

They always had points but never displayed it properly pre-2018 iirc. I remember the aliee 2017 song having such low points even though it was such a smash lol.

I always assumed they changed formulas. 2011 had bigger streams and DL, yet 2010’s soty index points were far off.

2010 year-end #1

3m DL

600m index points

2011’s #1

4m DL

21m Streams

379m index points??

I’m confusion luv Korea eggsplain

Oh that’s right the filtering. But if it’s not a revenue chart, how do you think Ko Ko Bop charted so high on the year-end, even beating out BP and RV in 2017 despite having lesser DL/Streams. Or Call Me Baby in 2015. Their rankings always baffled me, and their fans keep saying it’s revenue based.

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Idk why their fans kept insisting revenue chart, the numbers weren’t adding up. Ko Ko Bop’s DL/Streaming number stood out.

Gaon Chart (Top 100 Digital 2017) - Infogram

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The problem with these numbers is that they are estimates done on app installation %, i have ytm app installed on my phone since forever, i never use it..

does that apply w the other Korean services too?

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Where did you get that number? All compilations ive seen says its at 1,497...

https://xn--o39an51b2re.com/gaon/jisurecord/1214938

They only tracked 2018-present. The other points came from 2017!

edit: not an idol, but anyone else into Gray’s fine ass