well, apart fromnewjeans, none of the mentioned groups can topIVE in korea, some have never seen a top 10 on Melon... IVE is a korean group first and foremost, so they're doing a great job
I agree with you, lazy k-onces I don't support them. Look at Talk That Talk with 0 music show wins, Set Me Free not even staying at Melon Top 100. They don't deserve my girls
