Posts by jimeous
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Where possible, Yes except I don't buy Japanese Albums due to the lack of extra content
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From my understanding it is only Trainees that debut which accrue their debt.
YGE wipes off trainee debt for those that debut but they don't have many Trainees to start with and they are only looking for specific trainees so there is so few of them compared to JYPE or SME.
JYPE and SME pay Idols from debut, taking out a portion of thier debt but the biggest problem is smaller companies that charge Idols for everything which the Big 3 don't do.
Chrome billed Crayon Pop for opening for Lady Gaga because the appearance fee couldn't cover the expenses, this is an example of how debt is incurred for Kpop Idols.
Since 2005, there have been 80+ ex-JYPE trainees that have debut
A very old list so there is likely 100+
So this is a real example of the overheads a company can go through but JYPE also has JYPE Concert Auditions and Trainee Auditions so their investment in new talent is the best for Kpop.
But what the JYPE example illustrates is that it they could potentially make a killing by charging a fee for Trainees but it would be a scam as Trainees would be expecting to debut for JYPE.
Being charged for debuting is fine depending on the Amount, this should be transparent to Idols that debut.
Being charged for attending Events where the companies knows you are going to lose money is a scam.
Being billed for over promotions, like in LOONA's case is a scam as there is no way that their members could even pay back that bill in a "reasonable time".
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So don't associate with them and if they are your friend then swap them for a Happy Meal
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Do you want us to play "Spot the errors" with you?
It's fine to be wrong but it's pathetic to say I am when you give no evidence, so just educate me and do it
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Fer sure...
It was SME that changed the Contract Laws for their F*ck ups for exploiting them, not to mention they have the highest turnover of Chinese Drop outs that sue the company.
They have mothers of idols that kick out the members in groups (Jessica SNSD), LSM showed LOONA's Chu's mother how to act the same, yea it's a joke.
But they are known to exploit their grandma and grandpa Idols instead of investing in the kids so you have ahjumma's and ahjussi's doing comebacks while the kids say Wow That's Fantastic (WTF)
Seriously though...
SME are one of the most difficult companies to get into training, ask that old fella JYPark that failed :P
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So heres the thing....
We know YGE are only interested in Lisa and Jennie but BP have been doing so well that rather than dumping Rose and Jisoo it's probably better to just debut a GG under TBL.
You might think this sounds fantastical, but let me remind you that YGE dumped 2Ne1 a number 1 Chart dominator to debut BP which they planned since 2012.
The only problem I can see is........ will YGE debut another GG in the near future because they aren't JYPE that currently have 4 active GGs with good financial success.
Teddy barely writes songs for Somi and BP so he's going to have even less time when TBL debut their GG.
The future I can see for YGE is another Sausage Factory copying the World Famous Sausage makers Big Hit :P
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If Cheer Up is Gee
That's very perceptive because both groups became Nation's Girl Groups due to that song, although SNSD was the first Nation's Girl Group.
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From my understanding, Trainee Debt gets paid by the Idols that debut for a Company rather than all Trainees. Idols then get charged for any debt made after that which is generally subtracted from any Revenue they make.
JYPE and SME start paying Idols when they earn money from debut, naturally this is after a portion has been paid for debt.
YGE wipe of Trainee debt as an Investment but you have to keep in mind they train considerably less people than JYPE or SME. As an example, since 2005, there have been 100+ Ex-JYPE Trainees that have debut for other Companies. Also YGE only train Hip Hop groups so they aren't looking beyond that and no AKMU were not trained by YGE.
The worst known case for charging Idols is from Chrome, that billed Crayon Pop for opening for Lady Gaga as the fee the company got wasn't enough to cover the expenses.
Anyway, a Fee based system would be fine except Companies aren't an Academic Institution where there is a National Standard Grade that is tested but Fee based systems are in place for Scammers.
BBC or Blockberry Creative found out the hard way that they overspent 10m+ on LOONA where they tried to at least get Chuu's debt but it sacrficed the rest of the group in doing so.
LOONA's case needs to be examined on how much of their debt was actually accrued by the group because from the outside, it looks like they have been ripped off and over promoted
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Why would YGE want to give their Profits to TBL when BP barely get enough Music from Teddy?
Teddy isn't JYPark that can write Music for multiple of his Idols as Teddy barely manages to write enough music for Somi.
BP are basically printing money for YGE from the scraps they get from Teddy and BP are now a Senior Group where "new music" isn't really the drive because BP have ATM fans at Concerts.
Just saying
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Aren't TBL going to debut their own GG?
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JYPark and Others in high positions will usually spin the bullsh*t about wanting a person in their agency but realistically even if JYPE's Scouts spotted Kazuha, she would already have had been too old to be a Trainee.
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Let’s be honest it’s just JYP who actually needs to do something. They are the only ones who been underperforming for few years in sk now
I'm not sure where that comes from...
TWICE, Stray Kids and Itzy have sold a million seller album, all have had (or are on) World Tours. NiziU has had 4 Dome Concerts while NMIXX has passed a million total physical sales in their debut year.
While their Song Charting has been low, JYPE confirms that the most important thing you need is fans that buy, this is something that is usually only seen for BGs of YGE and SME, while TWICE changed it for JYPE.
The irony being that TWICE's individual Album Sales grew as their Songs ranked lower
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Woah....
It's TWICE's 6th Consecutive year for a total of 1.6m+ Physicals Sold in SK and Japan
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Generations have NEVER been based on Gender, so the 3rd Gen started with EXO in 2012
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If Psy's Gangnam Style was the Wedding Day, then I'd say it's been a hell of a long Honey Moon as they seem to be touring the Globe
