There are, for example, 20 comebacks per year from 10 different groups, if you compare the indicators, then in most cases the main pool of purchases in the first days, then there is a significant decrease. If the track is viral, the purchasing trend resumes and this is lower than on the first day and lasts for a couple of days. Let's look at the situation with LSF: the first day there were 200k albums, then two days of low sales and suddenly on average 200k albums per day. Show me at least one group that has active sales 4/7 days to begin with.
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You have never followed sales a single day in your life and it shows. It’s been seen for multiple groups that shipping has been delayed or charts have been late to update. Literally everyone knows it. Even in this thread many ppl said wait some days because it’s common and has happened to tones of groups.
Sales happen with in the first few weeks.
Everyone knows this literally everyone other than you who seems to have joined kpop yesterday and has never ever followed sales.
Or the company simply made a mass purchase, like what happened with Hybe shares, where employees made a mass purchase of their own company's shares. Why do you deny the existence of saejegi? That it is a large company, they cannot make their own album purchases for the sake of profitability?
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What world are we living in that people buy a physical album because they heard a new song, liked it and decided to buy the whole album?! This worked in the past but not in this gen my dear.
Sales are mainly from fanbase. Shipment/distribution and sales happen in batches and not one shot. All stores take time to process preorder sales and then real time sales. Fanbases place orders by chunk and those chunks are processed at different timing. It is the same for all groups - go check other groups
Let's not make up stories if you are not familiar with how album sales work
Let's look at other groups that are doing well, but suddenly LSF is doing differently, although they were doing well before. And yes, if a track is viral, sales can grow after a while.
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Give up LSRF isn’t the first artist to sell more after few days idk the narrative that selling high the 1st day = organic selling high after few days = fake come from but it’s false there are countless stores which don’t ship their albums the first day, yesterday they released their albums in Japan where crazy sold 70k albums so it makes sense.
How convenient it is when your sales on the first day are 200-300K and suddenly there are delays, some sales in Japan, etc. Thanks to this, sales grow 3-4 times. You can't accept the obvious manipulation of album sales, why is this necessary? To increase the profitability of the group. Like I said, their track doesn't have the virality to justify sales afterward.
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Saejegi, but it is unlikely that anyone will consider this against a large company, usually small agencies are attacked.
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It's not just a HYBE problem. Mid and top tier groups have been putting out flops after flops for most of 2024. Fall might be an upswing though:
- Meovv's debut, so maybe Teddy can work some magic
- Izna is debuting too
- Diawings came out with a decent single
- Rescene came out with a bop to wrap up the summer competition
- Fifty Fifty might be cooking something is their pre-release is just the safe version of their title track
- Mimiirose went bopping with "the flowers swayed"
- Loosemble came out decent
- Young Posse is improving
- Madein also appeared
- And did you miss Younha's comeback? Go stream it.
- Hyoyeon is coming out with another blop, but Sooyoung is coming back
Fall is about save 2024 K-pop
The problem is exclusively in HYBE, because their low-quality product is constantly at the top of the charts, other companies see that they can save significantly on music production. Last year was legendary for K-pop, this year many groups continued to maintain the quality bar aespa, Red Velvet, nmixx, Twice, h1-key, but in general the trend began to go towards TikTok and music promotion. As a result, the Hybe model turned out to be working, but not enough to survive for a long time.
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Kind of exxpected this with all the over seas investments and BTS being in the miltary. They certainly arent broke they have billions in assets lol.
BTS is in the army and Hybe is releasing paid content with them every month, who cares where they are if the company is still making money from them. It turns out BTS' popularity has dropped and they don't make that much money anymore. If the band was in the army and the company didn't release anything at all, then your argument would have weight, but as it is, sorry, but they still make money with their help.
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Did Bang personally pay for the purchase of albums in Japan, where it is most difficult to track, we are still waiting for Chinese purchases so that the number of copies will be more than 1 million.
But the more albums are purchased, the greater the chance of Le Sserafim performing at the encore, again the tricks of Min Heejin.
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Just watched the latest Twice remix compilation and surprisingly there was no original track One Spark, and if you compare the quality of the remixes, Twice has original works, Hybe has Speed up, slowed, etc. Even NewJeans had all the original tracks 250 in the remixes without repeating the original with another cover. It is worth noting the problem with LSF, Jimin, Jungkook and other HYBE artists is that they make 10 versions of one track changing only the cover, this is considered by the platforms as a new track, but it is included in the total bill.
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This is just the tip of the iceberg, I think Spotify has a much more global fraud scheme.
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You know what's worse? I still see media articles citing the fake JTBC footage even now after it was proved to be false. And the absolute brain-dead users on theqoo and pan and kpop stans on twitter in general still use the "found lying on the pavement" to excuse being vile towards Yoongi. I'm sorry, but this is too little, too late. Yoongi's reputation has already been dragged through the mud and you can't take back the vitriol he had to face the past few weeks and will keep facing because of the character assassination k-media directly caused.
It's all Suga's fault, this is his punishment.
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she's kinda cute tho
Could it be Bang Si Hyuk and his hidden identity?
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