Posts by FoReveries

No surprise here, just another T-ARA style of libel and slander happening: netizens and ifans happily gobbling up any rumor that puts an idol in negative lighting without any factchecking or nuance, and acting as judge and jury instantly tagging an idol as a bully regardless - not realizing that they themselves are portraying far more severe bullying behavior even if it's done online.

By the nature of most of those preposterous claims alone, people should already have been suspicious about it.

But no, let's just cancel Soojin and ignore the arguments she gave herself that sounded a lot more sane and reasonable.

I just wanted to post about that here, when I saw it pop up, but I see I'm not the first :P

There's also this one that I really loved

Whoa, nice!!

Liked it back then, still like it.

But I admit that it's also Somi that makes it happen, seems like her label TBL has found the style and groove that fits her best and it seems Somi is now more in her element than she was when she debuted as solo artist.

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Whole meaning of the song change. Like "Rakastuin mä looserin" mean in Finnish "I fall in love with a loser"

Ah, interesting!

I know too little of Finnish to be able to grasp the lyrical differences between the Finnish and English version, alas.

I've been getting overwhelmed by badge notifications the past weeks.

Is this badge season, has there been any changes or renewals regarding badges that are the cause for it? Just curious.

Interesting.

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Why does it change from streams to views tho? Why not keep the same metric?

Now that you mention it, that IS kinda odd.

Isn't this a human thing, and not so much an idol thing?

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btw thats the english version that i find atrocious compared to the Finnish on lol

It's the same voices

But yes, hearing songs in their original language or the native language of the singers is often preferrable.

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I think you should use melon only since fandoms can easily manipulate charting on genie and other charts so it's not as accurate

Even Melon had multiple accusations of sajaegi directed towards it in the years past, so when it comes to chart manipulation I don't think any chart was completely safe against it.

Maybe it's just a matter of preference. I never liked it to just trust 1 digital platform, when there are multiple ones around, that's why I also prefer Instiz iChart above just checking Melon or Genie. Melon has also been steadily decreasing in market share, which is 1 more reason to include the other digital platforms to get a better overview.

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I was so excited for this debut because all the girls are pretty and can sing but the concept and songs are so terrible. For the second time JYP is being a follower instead of a "leader of entertainment". This is marks the end of the times when JYP used to be known for creating iconic girl groups and the end of where I call myself a jyp gg fan.

JYP looks like he is trying to repeat the formula of Aespa's music in Nmixx's debut song and it sounds so horrible. I gave him a pass when he let NiziU use Twice's concept because thats the only concepts that does well in Japan but this time its unacceptable. I feel so bad for the girls who don't deserve this kind of embarrassing debut. What a waste of visuals and vocals. I guess I am going to have to stick with Stayc who are the only group who is getting successful on their own route instead of trying to copy Aespa's concept these days.

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Hmm. Have you thought about this:

1. They haven't even debuted yet? At least wait for that to happen, to see if it's your taaste or not.

2. You don't HAVE to be a JYP stan, and force yourself to like everything JYP releases in groups and songs. It's perfectly alright to just have your ultimate bias group be a JYP group, like TWICE, and have non-JYP groups as other biases.

3. There's a lot of other interesting girl groups around, so even if you don't like JYP's new group and their debut song, there'll be other groups with all kinda other songs for you to explore.

Yep, they even had an MV

It has a typically '90s sound to it, but is also timeless in its catchiness.

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I don't think how you like that and savage are same levels Hylt charted no.1 for 3 weeks in both melon and gaon and 16 weeks in top 10

True. HYLT peaked higher, and has slightly better longevity than Savage.

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No particular order

BTS, BLACKPINK, aespa and OMG

that's it

if IVE next comeback is succesfull they will join this list, because ELEVEN is huge literally an it's still holding well after 2 months being released. Curious how their next comeback will be

People talking about Twice and AF but totally forgot how actually BOMB their latest comeback (Scientist)

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BTS, BP, Aespa and OMG seem to be the top digital performers of the past 1-2 years, indeed. IVE have a smashing debut with Eleven, let's see if they can maintain it with their comeback. They wouldn't be the first group that aren't able to follow up a hugely successful debut with an equally successful comeback. But as a start, it's golden.

As for Scientist, it didn't make much of a splash and it's not that old so I think people tend to forget about it - and I guess (success) fans rather wish to pretend it never existed at all and ignore it and hardly mention it.

TWICE haven't been doing that great at all the past couple of years, as far as the Korean charts go, merely ok and even TWICE's best performing song of 2020-2021 merely did mediocre in longevity. But Scientist happened to be an even a deeper dive on the Korean charts. Not sure why though, the songs weren't that bad. Maybe Koreans losing interest and moving on to other groups?

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Wow thanks for the insight

I didn't know that aespa is performing this well

You're welcome!

And yeah, Aespa so far have been doing great. Let's see how 2022 will turn out.

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Yena has been on literally a dozen different shows since disbandment. I think she's well known to a certain portion of the GP that are more consumers of general Korean entertainment, rather than pure Kpop fans. In terms of Izone fanbase, she's right in the middle it seems like, with Wonyoung/Yujin on the high side with over 300k albums between the two of them, Yuri with about 93k, then Yena with 72k, and Eunbi with about 60k.

If Urbanworks gets off their ass and actually does something for Minju, she might shock the world just as much as Yena.

Seems like all Izone ex-members are doing reasonably well, at least in the album sales department.

I don't think Yena was 1 of the most popular Izone members, but when it comes to variety she's probably 1 of the members that does best in it.

Well, Seohyun has been part of SM for years, apparently from there it was only a small step towards S&M Entertainment

I'm completely baffled how Yena's comeback is apparently the one that's doing best of all the IZ*One refugees so far?

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Savage is not on the level of hylt or lsg. Only 9 weeks top 10 to 16 and 22 in melon? Though I under your using gaon.

Yes, Gaon, because it's easier to look things up, and also because it includes Melon but not only Melon, also the other platforms like Genie, Flo etc.

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The top 3 are pretty solid at the moment, but I don’t think people would put Aespa on similar level to BP digitally. Their title tracks recently performed similar, but they key difference between Aespa and BP is that BP’s b-sides chart for multiple weeks. Which is why IU/BTS/BP are considered the undisputed digimons on a different tier. OMG charted a b-side too but that was a viral moment. Bp’s b-sides chart without viral moments. I mean even DKWTD charted a while weekly and KTL era is considered their weakest digitally.

Right now, it’s comfortably 1. BTS 2. BP 3. Aespa, but since BP hasn’t comeback I think people can put Aespa second.

True. This focused more on 'how did each group's best performing songs do?', not on how b-sides did (with the obvious exception of Dolphin).

It reminds me of the discussion years ago about which was the bigger digimon, 2NE1 or Sistar: Sistar's title songs ranked better than 2NE1's, but 2NE1's non-title tracks did better than Sistar's. Both were different strengths.

In this case, both Aespa's and BP's title songs chart roughly the same, although Next Level performs somewhat better than BP's best title song LSG. But then again, BP's b-sides apparently do better than Aespa's.

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you mean Anyhouse? 😁

I thought their new name was already a done deal. TwIzPinkHouse

They did? Nice!