Posts by FoReveries
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Sorry. But this sounds like just more gaslighting, the same level of gaslighting as all those Blackjacks/YG stans/other K-pop fans did years ago, pretending everything was fine and Minzy perfectly happy and that her solo time would come at YGE.
This is what Minzy had to say herself about her departure:
When she decided to depart 2NE1 and YG Entertainment in 2016, Minzy says it was the first step in figuring out if performing was her true path. “I needed some time to deal with my depression, find my own way and decide if this was something I really wanted to do,” she explains. “It was something I was doing for so long, but it was so hard to maintain. I had to find my own direction, and the only way to do that was by leaving the group and fighting for my own will. I was wondering, ‘What is my life about?'”
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If you take Ten out of Tencent, you're left with zero cent?
... but yeah, weird what's going on.
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She's almost like the archetype of an idol, true
She was already top tier when she was at PD48 - her stage presence and performance talents were already top notch in that show when she was barely 13 yrs old - but over the years she has also been able to develop her potential even more. Respect.
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Not sure about some of the others, but Minzy left by herself as her own choice, and YG was pretty vindictive and petty about it: right after she left he announced 2NE1 would come back soon and have their new album that Summer, after years of hiatus.
From what I saw, they or YG did want her to renew even if only to have this '2NE1 stays as one and will ever be one' image - but they didn't want to make any effort for her to have her own solo debut like CL and BOM, even more, they put her in the dungeon for years.
There were many telltale signs that showed she was unhappy for years before she left (even if some other-member stans did their utmost to gaslight and pretend nothing was wrong
) because of how she was treated by YG so it's not strange she was ready to leave as soon as her contract ended. -
Wait. JYP and YG lost all their older artists, none of them are around anymore?
I thought YG still had some of their 2nd gen artists.Well, as for the question above, which of them has the worst contract renewal rate for all their artists? Both have had many of their older groups and idols leave, unlike SM, which has more loyal idols (Read: slave contracts).
This is a bit too onesided. Super Junior gained their own sublabel over which they have full control in their contract negotiations.Also, SNSD had members leave without a problem as well as members that stayed and renewed multiple times.
It's also very unbelievable to think that artists like BoA or Kangta (or TVXQ for that matter) are under any slave contract.
So it's clear from all that that it's not a one-size-fits-all situation.
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Wow, nice!
NewJeans are the 1st girl group after SNSD that have surpassed the 20% mark in popularity. Impressive.6 out 7 girl groups that made the list are 4th gen. Ok, that settles it, we're fully into 4th gen era now.
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I'm still confused when people say "albums", do they mean phycical albums only (as I do) or do the included digitals ones?
I'm guessing most people will mean physical albums? Like Gaon album chart is I presume purely physical albums?
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Frankly, the whole 'it girl' makes no sense anymore, the term has been so often misappropriated and abused by K-pop stans to promote/push their biases, that it has lost any value to the conversation. Even more so since there's hardly any consensus on what defines an 'it girl'.
Same btw with some other overabused terms, like 'national hit', 'stage presence', 'paving the way' etc.
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Heh. I can still recall how people here (and elsewhere) tried to gaslight the whole affair and claim their hardest that everything was peachy and nothing wrong and that GFriend wanted to leave themselves
Given all the facts I don't think the GFriend have fond memories on how they parted with Source Music nor that they have close ties with the people that still make up Source Music, since most of the people they worked with closest had to depart Source Music as well by necessity.
It'd be odd though if this relational chillness would extend to Le Sserafim: after all, the LSF members aren't to blame for the whole thing.
Hopefully the GFriend members can have normal contact with LSF too, whenever the opportunity comes up.
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Bitch wtf the harmonies and melody. I thought it wasn’t it initially. But this song is so insanely good.
Actually after I got a bunch of tiktoks I realized this songs brilliance but wow too good.
Definitely up there for the best songs of 2023.
It’s very grand and larger than life. Something RV do really well.
Welcome to the club 
Red Velvet has that effect. Some of their songs only start to gel after an initial wtf-ery confusion and you've see them perform it live or experience their infectious energy and excitement when they sing it live like at encores, shows like Killing Voice and such.
I even found some of their songs like Zimzalabim and Really Bad Boy to be bangers, after I saw them perform them live
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I watched, it's was very fun episode
Good to know!
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I didn't know about this. Thanks, I'll be watching this one
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I don-t know about you but Karma is consistent, she never fails to come back and bite everyone in the ass.
I don't believe in karma, not even an inch. I see the rich and corrupt getting even richer and more powerful, and hardly ever getting punished for all their horrid deeds and wreckage they leave behind them. So, no 
... until I get proof that all of them get reincarnated back as grasshoppers or bunnies, then my view might change
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No, that's just you projecting. You tried it though. What a waste of an Uno reverse card in what amounts to a very bad attempt at strawmanning me.
I praise my favorite groups because I want to praise my favorite groups. Maybe you did so in order to gatekeep other groups and fans, and that has been your main motivation, but you are long jumping over the shark by equating any of my threads to the kind of toxic nonsense Big 3 stans used to exhibit on the daily back in the day.
In other words, that's the longest of reaches and an extremely illogical one at that. I've been making praise threads since Mamamoo were still selling 3k albums a comeback, but sure, label me a toxic success stan if it makes you feel better about behavior you've potentially been guilty of in the past.
Meanwhile I'll chuckle at the fact you just equated a "NewJeans just won two daesangs" thread to tyranny. Ah, yes. YamaChan is an evil despot who turned into that which he hates because he celebrated the achievements of his favorite groups, which surely prevents other fans from doing the same for theirs...Are you reading what you're typing here?
If you're not an arrogant company stan, then obviously this doesn't apply to you, but I'm curious why you're so defensive and triggered if you're not.
Lastly, I don't need "power" to be toxic on the Internet, or whatever plotline you tried to shoehorn me into for that fanfiction. Nor does anyone. It's the Internet. You don't need any justification to be arrogant or toxic, just a keyboard, time and opportunity.
If you want to make this about me personally, I very obviously enjoy seeing everyone do well. Not my problem if people get in their feelings because I spotlight the historic accomplishments of my favorite groups. But hey, if you can find evidence of me gatekeeping and punching down on fans of smaller groups, bring it to me, expose my hypocrisy and depose me to finally put an end to my tyranny. Otherwise, you should revise the plot of your fanfiction.
Well, naah, this just sounds like more gaslighting and ignoring the obvious double standards you're using here.
If you enjoy indulging the exact same toxic behaviour that you hated these Big 3 company stans for, then you're basically the same as them - or wanted to do the same as them but were unable to due to the group you initially stanned.
But if you feel otherwise and you're convinced that what you're doing is not the same, then we'll leave it at that.
Also you say that it's about 'company stans', but all the examples you mention are more about 'top tier groups' stans and their bragging and gatekeeping - which was definitely not only done by company stans, and which happened to be Big 3 group stans before that were doing it and which is now replaced by Big 4 group stans doing it.
Anyway, if you're ok with that sort of behavior when you're doing it, then that's fine. I've already said what I thought about it myself, and couldn't add anything more to what I've already said about it. To each their own
Cube and Kakao are literally both publicly traded companies. They're not exactly the "little man".
FiftyFifty maintaining their momentum and not self destructing due to greedy outside interests would have been an example of a group from a tiny company experiencing incredible success.
Or what Mamamoo did for RBW, for an even easier example.
Well, Starship and Cube are not the Big 3/4, what many people incl. you are always complaining about, about their gatekeeping and dominating/monopolizing the field; so the more companies that have successful, thriving groups the better
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The Mid3 can Burn in hell for all I care
Still, I would very much prefer if other companies somehow managed to release top groups. Mid tier companies and groups are getting even harder time to stabilish themselves now. In the past they could carbe a market niche for themselves, now eith even the Mid3 struggling to catchy up with the Big1 I see no chance for the smaller companies
Monopolies are never that good, I agree.
But even in the midst of HYBE launching an entire legion of separate groups and the Big 3 filling up the remaining space, non-Big 4 companies still seem to doing somewhat alright in the top tier area, with Starship and Cube having their own successful and popular groups.
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After a literal decade of Big 3 hubris, from the companies themselves and their arrogant company stans, I'm living my best life right now watching them lose relevance, chasing trends and watching a company that was a nobody 10 years ago almost completely dominating the industry today.
Karma's a relaxing thought
But isn't that simply you being exactly the same as those company stans, and being just as arrogant, prideful, hateful and toxic as the people you've been complaining about?
This is like rebelling and fighting against a tyranny, but afterwards, after the tyrants have been disposed and killed off, only to become the new tyrants themselves: it was never about justice or unfairness, it was just about having the power themselves, to be able to do all the atrocious things they were complaining about before.
Or, to translate: you never really had an issue with those Big 3 stans or their arrogance and toxicity, only with the fact that you didn't have enough ammunition and 'power' to be exactly the same as them.
Also, most fans of Big 3 groups aren't Big 3 company stans themselves and don't really care about the company, just about their own biases and how they're doing
... wait, does this mean that all your so called 'praise' threads about your new biases are disingenous and no real praise threads at all, but just you being a toxic success stan - the same as those people you were protesting about?
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If I recall correctly, the formal talk isn't just used as a formalised show of respect towards elders, senior positions and others in perceived higher hierarchical positions in the circles someone moves in - but it's also used when someone's not that close with someone else and there's an emotional or social distance even if they're the same age.
At least in several Asian countries these 2 separate grounds for formal talk occur.
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I've never seen gg stans making an issue over this, though it likely has happened to them too (except Blink, idk if they have done this or not). Every year, some of these bg stans attacking some groups after award shows due to this.
Not sure if this premise is true, I can recall many other times from 2nd gen and onwards where girl idols were scoffed at and bashed for not bowing sufficiently
I'm guessing 
