Posts by whiplashed

Quote from icyruios

The albums aren't even out.....

expecting op’s threads to make sense is asking for too much

It’d be funnily tragic if lesserafim comes back on the same day as another gg just like antifragile and nxde coming out on the same day They were robbed of reaching the number 1 they would’ve rightfully deserved

Quote from gerrard174

Actually Mina is really quite good but is constantly overshadowed by momo. Mina has good form + precise execution but she lacks the strength (which people think Jihyo is better because she dances like end of the world). After years of ballets give you more flexibility and increase fluidity + also the accuracy in exectution, but the elegant nature of ballet tends to make them less energetic as compared to others but technique wise they're still above average.

I would still put Mina in top3 of Twice. #2 or #3 between Jihyo and Mina.

well yeah I didn’t say mina isn’t a good dancer, just not the absolute best dancer in the group, which is the point of this thread isn’t it? izone’s nako also dances ballet and idt anyone would say she’s the best dancer in izone either. that doesn’t mean she’s not good. same with kazuha. there’s a recurring theme here.

Quote from BlackpinkHouse

I agree i have never understood all the hype that she gets, i never once noticed her onstage with stage demons like Soyeon, Yuqi and Miyeon up there with her.

calling miyeon a “stage demon” certainly is.. a choice

Quote from gerrard174

Also, LE SSERAFIM. Despite people saying Kazuha is the best (in term of fluidity), I personally think Chaewon and Yunjin are on par and better in power.

kpop fandoms tend to put ballet dancers on a pedestal but in reality there are usually other members in their groups who excel more at idol dancing. after all fluidity / flexibility isn’t everything there is to dance, and there are habits ingrained into ballet dancers that might not be suitable for the type of choreos they need to execute as idols. aside from kazuha, twice’s mina is another example that comes to mind where the ballerina isn’t really the best dancer in their group

another win for the success stans

Quote from citron-icy

Ok but can you provide me the link of their own songs pls ?

ig dance crews or cover artists should just fuck off the internet entirely bc they don’t publish original products and therefore any view they receive is illegitimate and any subscriber they amass shouldn’t count - no original song => no creditability, their singing or dancing abilities or performing charisma be damned, and anyone watching them is just being a success stan and not actually enjoying it amirite? 🤪

honestly you’ve been going on this weird rant and finding problems where there shouldn’t be, and the kicker is you think you’re on the moral high ground bc you’re here to protect “artistic integrity” or whatever unlike other people lol. the mainstream vs indie media battle has been a thing since forever in every other medium in every other market; kpop didn’t invent it and certainly has a long way to go to even enter the same ballpark as some other much more coveted entertainment areas.

with mainstream media there’ll no doubt always be a portion of people jumping on the success bandwagon of certain brands/franchises, but they’re never, and i mean never, the majority, and most people who enjoy those mainstream mediums actually enjoy them for their entertainment value, not their success. the mainstream success helped bring the brand name to reach more people than indie projects, but if they weren’t actually enjoyed by most people who consume them they’d never stay popular still; the success stans could only do so much to carry those franchises alone.

it’s also silly to call people who anticipate new projects from well known brands like pixar or disney “success stans”, bc those brands have established a certain reputation for their products and people who enjoyed past projects from them hope to expect a new project with similar quality and enjoyability, hence the anticipation. people aren’t being success stans when they look forward to a new pixar film, they’re just assured in a guaranteed at-least-decent film they could reliably watch without worrying it might turn out to be complete trash like the worry they’d have if they plunged into an unknown indie film head first. of course their perception isn’t always correct and there are bad films coming out of big studios all the time, but we’re not talking about filmgoers’ correct decision making skills, we’re talking about motivations behind their actions, and “success stanning” certainly isn’t an actual thing for most of them. we’ve also seen many cases of huge budget films turning into box office bombs due to negative reception, so it’s not like filmgoers are all mindless sheep liking what’s popular or has a big name behind it only, and have no capacity to actually enjoy unknown indie flicks. many small budget films became sleeper hits due to word of mouth too, so the “success stanning” angle of yours is a very outdated black and white outlook of things and doesn’t really hold water at all in the big picture.

yes many people don’t bother to scour every single new indie film coming out every month, but that doesn’t mean they force themselves to like all big budget films either. people who have their preference and don’t claim to only like all popular films are not success stans, even if they don’t know a lot of indie films. the same applies to kpop. your narrow minded definition of what makes someone a “real” music fan or cinema fan and not just a success stan reeks and it’s not even correct lol

I thought rv’s birthday performed a lot better than cheshire on charts? 🤔 Does anyone know how circle calculates their numbers / how cheshire won over birthday?

Quote from Kouss

Is this their title track? I heard so much buzz online about them and their rapping skills and this wasn’t impressive AT ALL

No this is their title track they’d been promoting weeks ago:

now they’ve moved on to promoting the bside on their single which is left & right, the track posted in the op

Quote from catzi

All i did was tell u guys some truth and it probably hurt enough so now yall decided u have some personal vendetta against me when idc

And I will always tldr that guy cause hes the only person on akp who insulted me unprovoked twice, 3rd now ever since ive been on akp so i dont feel like reading anything he says anymore cause he sounds more like an obsessed weirdo

“personal vendetta”? “i told you guys some truth and it probably hurt enough”? lol i’m sorry but you’re not beating the childish allegations i fear

i’m not gonna get in between your beef with other people, i’m just speaking my own observations of this very thread so rest assured anything i said is based on this thread only, not on any preconceived personal grudge like you believe 👍

Now since you don’t actually want to hold a discussion with everyone and will point blank dismiss points made by people who you don’t want to hold an argument with whether there’s merits to what they said or not, ig there’s no point giving you an actual tldr you’re not interested in and staying on the topic of this thread if personal beef trumps the discussion then i’m outta here

Quote from Icaro_Ribeiro

The only possible reason I can see for you to be so bothered by such statement is if you personally disagree that the music of that specific music group is good, which is your right of course, but sounds like a very idiotic (childish even, which looking by your posts seems to fit you well) thing to be bothered about.

how ironic that right after you made your post op proceeded to prove your claim right away with the predictable “tldr” retort usually made when the person doesn’t like the point being made lol op had no problem deciphering posts even longer than yours above when they agreed with op, but now suddenly they’re incapable of reading a few very easy to understand lines just bc you disagreed with them hmm

I never really cared to form words to describe them but maybe you just came up with the decisively correct word

In general, the most important factor for groups to not fail is exposure / promotion. But since nugu groups don’t have that, luck is their best chance to blow up. Whereas for groups from big companies where the exposure / promotion is already guaranteed thanks to the company label, music / concept then becomes the driving factor in deciding which group will come out on top. Extra perks like the idols’ visuals or charms or personalities all come into play too but essentially to dominate on a wide scale if your music doesn’t resonate with a wide portion of the public, no amount of company privilege or huge budget promotion can take you to the next level in terms of public recognition. Better just be content with “only” having a built in decent-sized to big fandom so you don’t go under after a few years like most nugu groups who don’t have the luck to succeed regardless of what their music sounds like.

People acting like your music doesn’t matter to have a string of many hit songs are equally foolish as those acting like the music is the only thing that matters lol this shit is like the pot calling the kettle black and neither is as pale as they think

Are you really asking why an mv released by a relatively nugu gg at the time doesn’t have as many views as their later mvs released when they’d blown up, or as mvs from other more well known groups than omg? Don’t forget ads didn’t really become a huge thing for kpop mvs until like 2019 which is way after closer’s year of release (2015), so that’s another boost in views which newer mvs have nowadays but closer didn’t have.

Quote from citron-icy

It's amazing to see everyday how you think this group is popular cause of their music. It's fascinating but also very scary.

Do you have trouble with reading comprehension? No where in the op did op say anything about the reason nj is popular but you pulled that out of your arse and made a completely irrelevant and false claim op never said

But to humour your obsession with the reason behind nj’s fame, there are obviously multiple factors contributing to nj’s popularity, not only 1 factor. But to consistently insist nj’s music isn’t one of them is a new level of self delusion and wishful thinking yet to be reached

Quote from Dreamer95

Damn, thread views keep climbing. Blinks, I am ditching your asses

first time ever jealous of blinks

Quote from Ves

Damn, every idol mentioned in this thread got dragged and thus the only person who won in this thread was the troll OP. Bravo?

It always happens and people always, and i mean always, fall for op’s dumb bait threads like clockwork lol seeing people lose their shit over trivial petty stuff like this is hilariously tragic if nothing else

Op watching people tear these idols apart all for op’s entertainment like puppets on a string:

can people pls stop abbreviating chris lee as “cl” i thought they meant 2ne1’s cl at first and i was like wait what when did a yg person join in on the mess

sm will never be able to surpass disney when it comes to performative activism when the latter has this bop in their discography

Quote from catzi

If i see nj stans trying to drag ive i will drag nj back, it is that simple. Fuck around find out

so what you’re saying is if the reverse happened and some ive stans dragged nj first then it’s all fair game for nj stans to drag ive back according to your logic and you’d gladly accept it with no complaint or irritation since ive stans “fucked around and found out” right? alright good to know

considering that akp houses a really crazy obnoxious wonyoung stan ig we won’t have to wait long for your offer to be taken up

Quote from SooYoung

But Memem was terrible, forgettable a lot of fans started to lose interest with Memem

but still had hopes that Nerdy will be their savior , and Nerdy was as forgettable than Memem

not only was memem an indigestible song and a inadequate, uninspired obvious imitation of what was trendy in kpop at the time, the kicker of the situation is that pretty psycho was literally right there in that album and practically a perfect fit for purple kiss’s whole identity and sound in every single way - this is not an exaggeration btw, but alas some dumbass on the executive level decided to brainlessly chase trends instead and went for memem to be promoted as purple kiss’s next title track after the success of zombie. one of the stupidest executive decisions in kpop of all time - this is not an exaggeration either

rbw really destroyed purple kiss’s momentum and hype from zombie just like that. the numbers show people were clearly tuning in to them after zombie’s positive reception, only for purple kiss to release memem as their next song - one of the most bafflingly terrible title track choices in kpop i’ve ever seen. and people’s interest in them evidently dropped like a rock unfortunately. they should sue rbw honestly