Posts by Slayurfaves

Quote from HardcoreBLINK

Jennies c-bar will go all out too

Also Jennie's will be an EP so it'll be available for purchase in the US/EU since it'll count for the charts

I have zero doubt she will do 2M especially since it'll be after BP3 next year

by fanbase I meant c-sooyas ( not cbars) ... To put into perspective groups like aespa/lsfrm sold around 1/1.3M and they are a full group with the likes of sakura, karina, ningngin and they didn't get higher than that for their first day ( probably won't get much higher in the first week) . Realistically speaking 2M is too much for an individual member. of any group if you ask me unless you are seventeen or something lol

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Jennies 1st ep will sell 2M copies next year

Yeah Jennie will do good too but her solo fanbase put the effort to support her solo it not as easy to get those numbers. Not saying blinks didn't support but majority of those sales were from her solo fans especially in China

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It's not. Jisoo, Jimin, aespa, le sserafim and g idle are all flops and no competition. Real competition are whoever released music when ditto dominated the charts

but to be fair flower is going viral now in Korea ( I dare to say it's the biggest song at the moment) this why I mean ive's having a big fanbase + promo + performing at universities makes them the most popular girl group ( I swear I'm not trying to downplay it) I like them but every factor should be taken into consideration. Jisoo could have reached #1 on melon .

Quote from YamaChwan

Now this is actually misinformation.

Ain't no way you're a real 3rd generation girl group stan and going to sit here pretending Mamamoo was never competition.

Are you even a real Blink? Go see when Yes, I Am and As If It's Your Last dropped. Go see what happened on the charts the first month, when Mamamoo set a then all-time record for 24-hour unique listeners by a girl group.

Going back to the actual topic, what do you think a discussion is? And why do you think a rebuttal and a discussion are mutually exclusive activities?

You can disagree without being disagreeable. If I don't agree with someone's opinion, or need more evidence to be convinced, I will say so. And I'm not forcing anyone to agree with my opinion.

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didn't aiiyl end up having more longetivity than mamamo song though? funny you were talking about longevity before with nj lol I guess it doesn't apply with bp right? and mind you, this is in bp rookie years ( 2017) lol bp has more achievements now they are on another level now

also as if it is your last had 10 weeks on melon top 10 vs mamamoo only 7 weeks on melon top 10 so who had the biggest longetivity at the end? not to mention that aiyl was the first girl group that landed at #13 on the billboard bubbling hot 100 during that time

edit: aiiyl had 60 weeks in the top 100

Quote from YamaChwan

You didn't have to come for my favs like that. It's been 6 years since BlackPink went head to head with Mamamoo and got outcharted for a month by them. Let it go! Also jk

But how am I downplaying IVE? Their accomplishments don't get wiped from existence just because I acknowledge what NewJeans has done. I just don't think they compare favorably.

If I call Mamamoo the most talented girl group of their generation, I'm not saying the other girl groups aren't talented, right?

Did you see the tweets from my earlier post? Those are video game numbers, even for K-Pop.

If you think IVE is bigger than NewJeans, hey, show me something to prove it. I opened this thread with a question, so that means I'm open to different answers.

If not for what NewJeans did in basically 6 months, this topic would've been about IVE. I highly respect what they've accomplished and hold them in high regard.

I'm just even more floored by what NJ did.

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what? I don't even remember anything... got outcharted you have to be kidding lol mamamoo was never a competition for 3rd generation girl groups and you know it very well maybe you hold grudges because you happened to be a blackjack. I don't know lol

People seriously showed you tweets or pointed out good arguments and explained why is hard to say who is bigger but you refuse to hear other people's opinions? if this is thread is about discussions how come you are refuting any evidence?

I'm happy that you have a group you can brag about since you couldn't with mamamoo jk but for seriously

but you have to admit you are downplaying Ive's impact in Korea both are not that far from each other even as a non-fan it's easy to tell Ive has charts to back it up + the biggest fanbase there and and it girl. New jeans records are impressive but so are I've's . I think it's not wrong to say Ive is bigger in Korea at the moment ( at least they have an edge) and nj internationally

Quote from hieuken

that is not correct, maybe at their peaks? , but in the 2022-2023 period, NJ youtube music views were only lower than Twice and BP, not ITZY

why do people keep underestimating NJ youtube views (because their mv views are low?)

Only Spotify.

unless you mean that Fifty Fifty doing better than BP globally as well?

ok not sure why other groups are mentioned to defend your argument

Quote from girlgroupstan21

IVE is there.. I AM is still #1 on ALL CHART despite like the whole industry coming back.. Jisoo, Jimin, Taeyang, Seventeen, BTOB, Le sserafim and now Aespa; none manage to take the #1 from IVE

I think Ive is the most popular 4th gen for many reasons but it's pretty close with other 4th gen girl groups imo

I don't think this is a good argument though yes Ive is popular but they have a big fanbase in Korea too + they are visibly in general public eye + promoting in universities etc ( that should be taking in consideration) I'm not trying to discredit them I do believe they are pretty popular but we have to be objective like I'm pretty sure Jisoo could been easily being #1 since flower is going viral which is making more noise. Charting #1 depends on many factors

isn't Ive? I think there is too much competition for 4th gen to even have the most popular girl groups discussions maybe in a few years we'll know

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it girl things

they don't sound bad like what are people expecting from an encore but they definitely sang live

just gonna name all 3rd gen girl groups I can think of lol not related to your question though lol

omg there aren't many lol

momoland

Gfriend

OMG

dreamcatcher

twice

blackpink

red velvet

mamamoo

for late 3rd gen

G idle

from is 9

loona

Quote from keyboardwarrior7

4th gen is literally still dominating.

Whether 5th gen is incoming or not, IVE and New Jeans are leading the pack.

yeah but the same argument can be used with 3rd/4th gen though 2018 ( which is the year some kpop fans argue 4th started) but twice, blackpink, bts, red velvet, momoland, ikon heck even momoland were having viral hits it was the most succesful year of kpop.

it took years for 4th to dominate. I would argue that 4th gen started in 2020 in terms of the generation shift started to take place with NL/wannabe. I personally think 4th gen might have started in 2019 but in terms of impact it was probably 2020 and onwards . Not that I'm agreeing with having a 5th gen this early but if it happens how would it be?

Anyways, I was just wondering if new jeans and ive might be rebranded as 5th gen later on for me new jeans, ive and babymonster same as nmixx it would make sense for all of them to be in the same gen

is aespa the adopted older sister? lol

I totally forgot about kakao/sm lol

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