Posts by Onewbias

    can't find translations yet but here are the posts on theqoo:


    Written by Blind Hive Staff

    Blind Hive Staff Additional Comments

    rough translation from google translate:

    1.

    “Representative Min. Let me ask you something.

    She said that she created successful artists on her own, not necessarily HYBE's capital. Really?

    - Where were half of the original NewJeans members trainees? Where were they trained?

    - Besides ADOR, which label did girl group Min Hee Jin initially intend to debut with?

    - What YouTube account did you promote NewJeans' debut songs, including "Hype Boy" and "Attention", with?

    - Who runs campaigns on global platforms like Spotify and YouTube for NewJeans?

    - Who developed the Phoning app?

    - Who plans and conducts the fanmeeting for New Jeans?

    - Who helped NewJeans appear at the Lollapalooza Festival, interview on the cover of Billboard magazine, perform and receive a Billboard award?

    - Who handled all of NewJeans' advertising, brand partnerships and sponsorships until the end of last year?

    - Who coordinated NewJeans' appearances at award ceremonies in Korea, Japan and the US?

    - Who sends NewJeans domestic and foreign press releases and communicates with reporters?

    And there are about 50 other questions.

    + I added this because I'm afraid people will misunderstand. All of the above work is done by HYBE staff, not ADOR.

    ↪️ Response from another HYBE employee:

    “True to every word haha. 3 days before NewJeans debuted, she suddenly asked me to do urgent work and said that it was very necessary for the MV, she had no choice but to give it to me because it was too urgent ㅋㅋ She made me increase shifts for 3 consecutive days... All are done with HYBE's capital and human resources. It's ridiculous.”

    -> CJ E&M employee: “What a miracle.”

    -> Answer: “Even though Weverse is available, I still like to make Phoning for my own use. Back then it was considered special treatment. Poor people who have to make apps.”

    -> YG employee: "When I saw Min separate Phoning from Weverse, I felt unusual greed."

    -> Answer: “Very fierce. Every time there is a need, the tank takes 🩸 from the Sales and Administration department??????? I also want to ask a lot.”


    2. Additional comments:

    🗣️ HYBE Staff 1: “At the same time, members are asked to never mention HYBE in their acceptance speeches, nor are they allowed to mention artists from other HYBE labels. They even banned reporters from asking questions about their time as trainees before debut (because they didn't want everyone to know they were Source Music trainees). Representative Min, if you hate HYBE so much, it's very mean of you to say that you will use the top 16th floor just because you are in charge of designing the company building. I also wonder why you use shopping bags. It has the name HYBE on it.”

    🗣️ HYBE employee 2: “What crime is HYBE employee guilty of? Insults, cursing, irritability, constant stress and unreasonable demands to meet tight deadlines without any basic explanation.

    In fact, they don't even share necessary information with HYBE people to do the job because it is "confidential information". Yet even outsiders like the Dolphin Kidnapping Team (NewJeans' MV production unit) still know. So don't ask people to do this or that.

    And the person in charge of that label is also a strange CEO* luring* the power to spread the word.”

    🗣️ HYBE employee 3: “It's been a long time since I've seen an article full of rational words. Well, if you accuse ILLIT of "imitating" attending fashion events, then doesn't ILLIT go before debut, and NewJeans go after debut? Does the CEO request understanding and cooperation from ooo (abbreviation) regarding Personal Ambassador activities? HYBE's new Ambassador title is a mouthful. Going to another label makes it worse."

    🗣️ HYBE Employee 4: “Attach 🩸 to HYBE's Sales and Administration department whenever you need help???????” I still have many questions I want to ask Representative Min.”

    🗣️ HYBE 5 employee: “Thinking about Phoning gives me a fever hahahaha.”

    Article: Hybe CEO on the Ador scandal, "There is clear exposure of Min Hee Jin's attempts at taking our company... we will be protecting New Jeans"

    Source: Ilgan Sports via Nate

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    Article: Min Hee Jin under controversy for claiming Bang Shi Hyuk copied her with BTS

    Source: Sports Chosun via Nate

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    Article: Hybe secures documents of Ador's internal dealings

    Source: Segye Ilbo via Nate

    source: netizenbuzz

    The funny thing here is that not one Army has defended Bang from being abused cause we do not like the fucking man and know that he is a capitalist piece of trash nor do we think BTS needs him to survive, in fact it is vice versa...but then you look at how some Tokkis here are reacting to any and every criticism levelled at MHJ either overtly or covertly by cowardly facepalming, it becomes obvious who stans the CEO and the company.


    If you think your faves cannot survive without their CEO's creative input and you think that she is so fundamentally important for their survival....well its telling man what you think of them and who you actually stan. If I was a tokki I would never downplay them like that and be confident that they would do well without MHJ too....never seen a fandom this obsessed with a CEO/creative.

    That is so true.

    I think they're more MHJ worshiper than NJs' fans atp.

    Armys are the biggest kpop fandom so ofc you will see us everywhere. Other fandoms also have tons of Army multis. Not to mention, MHJ has been media-playing New Jeans as BTS' little sisters using BTS privilege since debut so seeing her resisting so hard to other groups associating with 'New Jeans' is very amusing and hypocritical to Armys. So you can't blame us for being invested in this. Many Armys on akp (like me) like New Jeans as well so they have the right to voice their opinions and concerns about New Jeans' future.

    It just doesn't make sense or have a lot of weight to me. Bang PD was heavily involved in Source from the minute of acquisition.



    This just looks like people again blaming everything that's happened in the last few years on this

    Of course he was involved. The Source Music's new girl group was supposed to a collaboration between Bang PD and MHJ. I think when MHJ announced she would create Ador, there were speculation MHJ and Bang had different ideas regarding the group that's why they split up. Then she took 4 girls from Source Music with her.

    This is an old issue being brought back again, it's not something new.

    New theories regarding Source music and Ador (read it with grain of salt)

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    :pepe_akorns::pepe_akorns::pepe_akorns:

    Facts are : Except Hyein, 4 New Jeans members were originally Source Music's trainees :pepe-notes:

    In all seriousness, this is the most questionable thing so far. Granted everything is very much alleged and we won't know what's true until it's hashed out in court, but this particular piece is really screaming fake b/c I have to belive that she is not THAT delusional.

    I find it more believable that thdyre only saying they found this in order to piss off a somewhat volatile (and semi-dormant as all their members are enlisted) fanbase to see if they can turn the tide more in their favor (though I have no clue who is currently being favored rn).

    i think the BTS mention might be fake but not the 3 groups. If she thinks ILLIT copied her, high chance she also thinks the 2 boy groups did the same.

    This is why I hope the parents got the own lawyers and prioritize NJ’s best interest and not get involved in this HYBE vs MHJ. But it may be too late if they trust her but even then I hope they read all the data. They may not know the entire story but only MHJ’s version. We shall see…

    MHJ has been manipulating their parents as well so i'm worried they all side with her. we'll see...

    See there is one very important change in Korean law that we are not taking into account. If a group leaves, they can take their copyright with them under Korean law but if their case is strong. So there is a possibility that NJNS do walk out with MHJ and take their copyright with them. We keep talking about MHJ and Bang or Ador vs Hybe but Newjeans hold the trump card IMO at the end of it all about who wins this battle.

    well i don't think MHJ's many criminal allegations will help make their case strong in court pepe-ooh

    I think Ador owns it, not Hybe. I remember when they were getting that JK logo trademarked it was in the name of Big Hit Music and Jungkook


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    So I would assume it would be same for other sub-labels too. If Ador has the IP and MHJ owns 20% of Ador it is going to be a legal battle for Hybe to get rid of her stake in it, or they let it be and let her earn the royalties too. Actually I was thinking how her 20% shareholding in Ador will still remain even if they throw her out as CEO and that may make things uncomfortable for Hybe so there is a possibility if they are being super petty that they close down Ador and liquidate its assets and maybe shift NJNS to another sub-label...but even that could end up in major lawsuits with MHJ protesting against it

    I think what's important now (for Hybe) is not MHJ leaving but MHJ leaving and taking away New Jeans (the IPs, song copyrights and members) as well.

    If it's Ador that own everything then it's easy for Hybe to claim it back because they have the majority share (80%)

    But if MHJ personally has the songs' copyrights (which i assume she does because she's their A&R also executive producer who personally picked the songs), it would be impossible to Hybe to claim them which might result in New Jeans members deciding to follow her otherwise they will lose their identity and start over again. And I don't think Hybe would love starting over again with the girls either.

    Belift get ready :pepe-devil:

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    ILLIT dark concept let's go :pepe-shoooketh:

    In all seriousness, they would totally kill this kind of concept better than the cutesy new jeans-ish one pepe-ooh

    Officially Ador inc owns the Newjeans trademarks. Though how that exactly works between hybe and ador is difficult to say and will depend on contract specific things. I don't really see how MHJ can own the full copyrights of the Newjeans songs without any direct credits so that too will be owned by Ador. Often tho you'll see Hybe Co sue for copyright infringement on behalf of ador/bighit/pledis ect so that plays into it too.


    all ips are being registered by hybe. they have a separate division for that called hybe solutions who handles it. i dont think ador is different unless mhj has different agreement cuz hybe still owns majority of the stocks . even when belift lab was majority owned by cj all ips of enhypen are registered under hybe not cj.


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    Ok, so Hybe own New Jeans IPs - clear

    Does MHJ or Hybe own New Jeans songs? - still questionable because I believe she's their executive producer. So it's still unclear if it's MHJ or Ador that own these songs