Posts by thelightoftruth

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I said the same thing about Knetz. What are you talking about? 😅

Never said I see the future, but I watched YG since the beginning. At first, Bigbang did everything, basically. Even 2NE1 had a lot of influence on songs, and not only in their own group. But since Blackpink, YG became lazy just like HYBE now. They became too mainstream and hyped, and they thought they don't have to work hard anymore. Till 2019, it was all good for BP, but after they debuted in the US, Korean started to ignore them, because they were acting different in the US like they did in Korea. After that, YG promoted them like models and not Idol singers or group, and even if they're massive, they were never considered as musicians.

That's why I don't trust YG, this isn't seeing the future, just basic knowledge, and I said, I will change my opinion about YG if they will do something different.

Age has nothing to do with talent. Mamamoo members were older, but that's not important at all. People didn't even know them, they had like 100 fans overall till their first performance on Immortal Songs 2. People in the industry said, they shouldn't be a group, because they're not pretty etc.

Hwasa and Wheein were 18 when they debuted, just like Pharita and Asa.

Solar and Moonbyul were 22, just like Ruka now.

So, why are you talking about age, again? Only talent matters. Mamamoo didn't have more experience than BM now as a group.

No, she's not. We saw her dance twice. You can't say something like that. That's what we called biased, btw. She's maybe better than some members in Mamamoo and EXID, but she's not better than the main and lead dancers. Not to mention the fact that YG groups, just like HYBE groups, are more focused on the dancing and other visuals, because they're not vocal groups.

I NEVER said, not even once, that Babymonster are not talented and they don't have any potential. Learn to read, hon. I literally said, they could be the "next" EXID or even Mamamoo if YG will do a good job unlike they with BP. Also, like I said, it doesn't matter how talented they are if they have to sing crap songs like Batter Up or Sheesh. The only one who's biased here is you.

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So many words to say nothing of substance.

YG's management of them is not relative their their talent. Them releasing songs you don't like also has no correlation to their talent.

I'm talking about their age because unlike you, I consider context. It's amusing that you keep comparing them to Mamamoo, one of the most talented all round groups. The only thing that does is support my comment that they might be one of the most talented groups in Kpop. As two month old rookies. Also, I was referring to currently active groups but I guess you took it to mean of all time.

As for me being biased, that's a laugh and a half. I've watched 3 of their MVs a couple of times and it's enough to see they don't really have any weak links. I just find it bizarre that you're being so judgmental about the talent of some teenagers.

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It was their debut mv and not pre debut mv

Agreed, classic YG media play.

My suspicion is that Ahyeon actually left, then they went and begged her to rejoin after Batter Up's underwhelming reception in Korea.

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I was gonna post this too, but are they even nugu?

Their newest song Midas Touch is great.

There's a couple of decent songs from Triple S

Quote from David33

You know why? They're only rising on Melon now, because the public starting to like them. They don't chart better in Korea because they have more fans. If YG only relies on their fandom, they will flop in Korea and probably outside of Korea too, eventually.

They are rising because of how talented Knetz think they are.

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I mean, yeah, but let's be real, the bar is pretty low for years now. Of course, they're better than most groups, when mainstream Kpop nowadays is all about visuals.

BM is balanced, but doesn't really matter how talented or balanced they are if YG will do the same crap with them what they did with Blackpink, and they will have like 30-40 songs in 8 years, and 90% of those songs will be copy and paste, cringe and lame.

Who said, I compared BM with those groups in their peak? Go watch Mamamoo or EXID and how they performed when they were a couple of months old group. I'm sorry, I follow Kpop since 1st gen, but I never saw a group that was better than Mamamoo in terms of vocals, rapping and dancing. They're the most balanced and best vocal group in Kpop, for sure. I'm not saying BM can't be at their level years later, but I don't they will, because they're a YG group.

I won't write a whole book about the other groups, sorry, you can find a lot of review about them on YT.

I don't dislike YG groups, I hate YG since 2NE1 disbanded. It was NEVER about the groups. Even Blackpink had a huge potential, but they never did anything with them. That's why I think they won't do anything with BM either. But at least, BM is already way more talented than BP ever was. So even if YG will be lazy again, at least the girls can perform live, I just won't follow them if YG won't give them good songs or chance to make their own songs. Trust me, Babymonster would be a much better group if they teach them how to write and compose songs.

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I appreciate that you think you can see the future, but that has zero relevance to how talented they are now.

Also, comparing them to Mamamoo and Exid exactly at debut is silly, because they were grown women, while Babymon are still kids. Chiquita is what, like 14 or 15? And easily a better dancer than so many members from these groups you've named.

They have huge potential talent-wise, you're biased if you can't see it.

As an Aespa fan, here's some hugs for Fearnots.

First of all, singing pure live with any sort of energetic choreo is never going to result in a perfect vocal performance.

Second, is it that hard to let Fearnots enjoy this moment? Good on Lesserafim for putting on a show. If you don't like their performance just go watch the MV instead.

Third, every single one of you haters have faves that aren't perfect and have had underwhelming moments too, be less hypocritical please.

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We can't judge them because they never sang a vocal heavy song, or did a hard dance choreo, and sadly, their rap parts are cringe as hell, even tho Asa and Ruka are really good rappers, but I only count rappers whom are writing their own parts. Also, you never said this comparison is between 7 (or more) member groups. You said the most overall talented gg in Kpop, and that's simple not true.

Also, there are weak links in BM too, for example Pharita and Chiquita. They're not bad, but not as good as the others. It's not even fair to talk about this, because they need years to develop their skills.

The groups I mentioned, there are no weak links as vocalist rappers or dancers. Talent wise, they are top tier. And I didn't even want to mention groups like Mamamoo, Big Mama, Wonder Girls or Sistar.

This is why I don't really like groups with more than 4 or 5 members, because with more than 5 members the group isn't balanced. Especially if they're a BIG4 group.

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It's easier to get a talented group of four vs group with more members. Pharita and Chiquita might not be as good as the others but from the little I've seen they are far better than weaker members of many other current groups. My point is that they are a well balanced larger group, and they average out pretty highly in my opinion.

Also, why you're comparing 2 month old rookies to crusty ass 2nd and 3rd gen groups at the peak of their development is beyond me. Also, you have to be joking with some of these groups you've named, and claiming that they have no weak links.

Exid are all mid dancers outside of Jeongwha, who is a weak vocalist along with LE.

Apink, have they ever rapped? They have a couple of mid singers in Naeun and Chorong and who's their stand out dancer?

Big Mama, have they ever danced? Can they even dance?

Wonder Girls? Lmao, poster child of mid talented but popular idols Sohee.

Sistar have Dasom, sorry.

I know you dislike YG groups but come on man....

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Now, if something is 100% untrue, this is!

We couldn't even say they are the best in 5th gen, because this gen is hardly started and BM need YEARS to prove their talents and versatility. Or more like YG need years, because it's all on them what they will do with the girls. They can be the "next" GFriend, EXID, Apink, but only if YG want to do that, and they don't want Blackpink 2.0, meaning, just another overhyped successful team.

I said it was a hot take lmao.

I'm judging them on right now, months in to their career. They are young, and have loads of potential.

Name some currently active groups with 7 or more members that don't have any weak links? NMixx is probably the only one.

As for those three groups you mentioned, they all have one or two members who are meh.

Hot take, Babymonster might be the most overall talented girl group in Kpop. They are up there.

Straight up, I don't listen much to BGs so I'm sure there are lots of great songs out there, but these are up amongst my favourite ones that I have listened to, no order.

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Illit is a copycat of Newjeans the way Twice is a copy of SNSD.

With Twice and SNSD we have choc glazed donut and choc sprinkle donut

Hope she recovers well, best wishes to her.

Yes, copycat, like an iced donut vs a cinnamon donut. Different flavour, different texture, but still a donut.

For comparison's sake Babymon to BP is like a strawberry jam donut to a raspberry jam donut.

Rise!!

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i finally got banned (although its just a 1 day ban but still)

Nice!

They had some great shows before. Looking forward to new music from them.

Congrats!!!

Trash behaviour....

but

Surely I can't be the only one though that finds it bizarre that badguy is complaining about toxicity though....

Happy Bday to all!

Get well soon!!

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Aespa nowhere to be seen in the list. Their fans make claims that they are huge in china, doesn't seems so.

I mean, you claim that Minji is an It girl too so I guess people just like to make shit up lmao