I have heard so much fans left the fandom cuz of waiting and then followed other groups.
Damn. That’s harsh. I guess this just goes more to show how mismanaged they are
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Yeah. I know. But you have to consider the fact that BP had whole 1 year hiatus.
Tbh I don’t see how a 1 year hiatus is supposed to make them look better
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I’m gonna see random posts on Blackpink concert page and conclude that armys did it🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Have you ever heard of trolls???
Or never seen a bl0nk on Twitter setting up BP as an army and then making screenshots for a hit tweet???
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Where people think stanning an underrated group makes them cool or stanning a popular group makes them cool.
It goes both ways and it’s kinda annoying
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Bigbang if they ever come back. But even that will still depend on the song and the gp don’t really have a good opinion of them. But ik people will still check them out
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So many groups on bb200 but hot100 is something so difficult. I really wonder how a group can hit top20 on bb200 but can't even touch bubbling under. Do their fans not try to buy on iTunes or stream? Downloads are much cheaper than albums after all.
This is so true. I never really thought about it this way. Maybe only sales aren’t enough to push into hot100. I’ve noticed that except PSY and older acts who debuted on the hot100 before audio streaming became a thing, the songs that are actually able to debut on Spotify US top 200, are more likely to chart
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I hope that you understand that this isnt very healthy..
This has nothing to do with being unhealthy. Why would I listen to the same music being produced by other acts when my faves are producing the same thing and listening to them will be supporting them when I’m their fan.
The only way for acts to stand out is to have their own sound. Being similar to others is what I’ll find unhealthy since IMO, they lack identity among the masses
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I hope that you understand that in kpop you have 5,10 groups with the same type of music as your group and even more when it comes to entertainment.
And this is why some of us lose interest fast. Why would we listen to similar groups when we can just listen to our faves all day?
For me I usually listen to artistes who are very different from each other. And that’s why the US pop scene sucks now because there’s not much diversity among the pop acts
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When we talk about "levels", then its about dividing objects into groups based on some metric. If we have a continuous metric like Spotify streams, then there are no groups which are exactly on the same level, since the exact numbers are always different. You cant have "having the same anything" as a concept.
In that case when we want to divide the objects into groups one of the most common methods is one-dimensional k-means clustering. In that case the model takes the numbers for objects (in this case streams for kpop groups) and considers is "distance" between clusters. Then it minimizes the within group distance and maximizes the between-groups distance. This way we find the solution where the groups are as well separated as possible.
So, since we are talking about spotify, lets take daily streams for kpop groups few days ago:pasted-from-clipboard.png
You might notice immediately how much bigger BTS is compared to the rest.
The distances are even clearer if we view it like this:
So, even intuitively, if we want to divide this into two groups now: kpop and "beyond kpop", then even if we draw the line in the middle, we get only BTS on one side:
Going back to the whole clustering approach, we get this:pasted-from-clipboard.png
Different colors show different clusters.
You can see how if we only divide the groups into 2, we get BTS and the rest, as expected.
If we go with 3 groups, we get BTS, then BP+Twice and then the rest
If we go with 4 groups, we get BTS, then BP, then Twice and then the rest.
In no situation whatsoever do we get BTS + BP.
Why? It should be clear if you look at the graphs and see how much further away from the rest BTS is. You have a lot of groups pretty close, then you have a gap of 2 million to twice, then you have a gap of 3 million to BP and then you have a gap of 13 million to BTS.
In best case scenario, you get that BTS, BP and Twice are separated from the rest of kpop, while BTS is still much much further away. But I think thats not what you want?
I don’t really wanna join this convo but I have to say I appreciate you for those good looking graphs
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This thread is gold
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More like Dash to the Past
Good one
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They aren’t even under the same company
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Oh yeah I saw this on my tl when the Danish ambassador to Korea, praised BTS for being nominated at one of their biggest award shows in their country
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Sing live. You are a vocalist whose job is to sing. If not what else are you doing in the music industry?
I can understand if they have no control or input in their stage performances. But if it’s the artistes who don’t wanna sing live, I will feel cheated out of my money if I ever go for their concerts.
Anybody with an average voice will sound good after their vocals are well tuned during recordings. The only time fans can appreciate their vocals is when it’s live.
And I’ll rather hear my faves’ voice cracks. At least they make an effort to sing to their fans
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Spring day on that immortal show
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Both are great, but BTS rose to fame partly due to B.A.P leaving the scene due to issues within the company. That's not to discredit any of BTS's achievements, they are a true success story and extremely talented, but I do believe B.A.P's absence was BTS's lucky break.
If you want some insider info, the CEO of TS ENT was allegedly a degenerate gambler, and that's why the members weren't paid, there was no money left.
The CEO also died a couple years later, and although the cause of death was unreleased, the reason is most likely suicide after accruing lots of gambling debt.
The delusion
BTS big break both international and local was the Wings album. Tell me how similar blood sweat and tears was to Bap’s music
First people say BTS became popular because of one direction’s absence, then later to Exo leaving for military and then to a lot of legendary groups inactivity. When will kpoppies accept that BTS rise to stardom would have happened whether the sun rose from the west to the east
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And they say it’s not “iconic” enough.
Spring day still charting in an apocalypse
