Sometimes I get confused on what exactly is expected from kids and teenagers in terms of maturity.
Sometimes the kid is "old enough to understand" what they're doing, sometimes they're not.
Sometimes their "brains are still developing" and they're still "immature", and suddenly, for whatever reason, they're not and they're punished.
Also, their personal lives are also taken off the question and I think it's unfair.
There's a kid who bullied me and my siblings who his parents were borderline criminals and abusive with him. Now as an adult, he's trying to fix his life, but it took years for him to realize how f*cked up was the environment he was living in. And I just wish him the best on his journey and I really want him to become a better person 'cause I know he's trying.
If someone punished him for the sh*t he has done as a kid (none of them being criminal related stuff), I'd be the first one to defend him. It's just unfair.
Don't take this personally but I think the bullying to you damaged your mental if you are the first one to defend your bully.
So it's okay to Bully and destroy someones mental health because the person itself have a hard life? Lmao
It's called karma.
If a 15yo kid bully someone and make someones life a hell then it's payback time for this person.
Especially in a country like South Korea where bullying in school is even higher and worse than europe/American its a good and important sign to show teenagers that everything will comeback to bite you if you don't have proper clean life.
And for soljin case where she denied at first and lied to her company and let her pyscho fans attack the victim, I don't think that she changed that much.
MuCore they do have a bigger chance.
From the 11k points only 3k are albums+voting.
So they have definitely a bigger chance.
Inkigayo the same and Show champion also.
Bullies have also their talent.
This thread is embarrassing.
Of course it's a big difference when someone put their blood, sweat and tears in their work or is singing a work from someone else.
It's not only Kpop thing its a worldwide thing where people respect musicians who put their own experience and heart in their songs.
Ffs we have 2021 and people still believe this fake news. No wonder that is coming from someone like you.
They are by far and since a long time the Greatest of all time in Kpop.
But they are far away from being the greatest of all time generally.
Michael Jackson, Beatles and Drake are bigger.
Kpop In Germany it's still nowhere to be found.
Maybe the reason is that the country is still conservative when it comes to Asians generally let alone kpop or the music from Asia.
The country itself is slowly waking up about clima, feminism and rascim against black people and other European nations.
But when it comes to Asians its still treated as a joke.
So it's hard for kpop to grow in Germany.
A beside track from Bts have much more hype, I won't start about their regular comebacks.
BP once in a year comeback is much bigger.
Bigbang 2015 was bigger.
Because you life in 1 bubble so you can't judge that.
2014 with Kris departure and 2015 cmb without luhan was much bigger.
I will ignore the "discussion" a blink and some mys had here...
I will say it again, Aespa reminds me of BLACKPINK (even thought BP debuted with a mega hit) every time they break records, people will always appear to disagree or just make it seem like an "ok" thing.
So i will keep my AesPink agenda!
Reminds you of what?
Damn users in this forum do everything for reactions.
I have the numbers for 2021 releases. LIlac and Celebrity both did better, and Rolling for sure had a higher peak in terms of UL. Judging by these Gaon Digital numbers, Butter is on pace to fall in between LSG and HYLT in terms of Gaon points for SOTY awards.
This is what Butter has done so far. For the 4th week, you can add in 34M Gaon points if you look at their official site. Adding in the 5th week, it will probably have around 160-170M.
Now compare that to HYLT which had 185M and LSG which had 147M.
Butter just didnt make the same impact that BG, Aespa, Rose (physicals), and Dream (physicals) did. At least in Korea, in the US obviously it's a different story.
Armys are so fragile to fail for this trolling lmao
Wait people who revived this thread really believe that Twice are relevant in the US? Dcml
Twice started charting on BB200 since M&M, the era where they started getting US distribution, you just proved my point lmao
none of us would have mentioned US sales if you didn't dismiss NCT Dream popularity by mentioning an US focused chart where only selected groups are able to chart due to label deals, or if you are bts or Bigbang, which again is a praise to Nct Dream, people expecting them to chart like the biggest bgs internationally
" the most sales from nct dream is coming from China and that's a fact" and you have zero proof of that, yet keep ignoring the Gaon retail chart where Dream sold already 1M+ copies, more than half of their 2M. So it's a FACT most of their sales are coming from Korea, or are you going to call the retail chart fraudulent?
Guess using actual charts and data doesn't fit your narrative.
"There's no demand" yeah you just hating, keep living in your bubble where everyone but your faves are flops with fake sales and where asian fans are worthless
I'm sorry, I just wanted to correct that user false claims, I won't bother anymore with such a sad troll
Many non-fans don't know about nct dream and their lack of american distribution, I started the convo for future reference if anyone wants to bring BB200 to drag them
your qoute is wrong I didn't wrote that.
The Gaon retail chart shows sales from KOREAN Shops, not from Koreans. A big big difference. Most Chinese bulks are from Korean sites where these are also hanteo certificated.
Where I am hating? For stating numbers? How about you to stop being so emotional and insecure about this topic?
Nct dream have actually no big impact or anything to justify to say that they have fanbase in the states or Europa that the most sales from the 2M sales are coming from there.
this should have been your sole argument. don't give these pathetic xenophobes any more attention
don't you know? asian fans are lesser than americans and therefore their sales and contributions don't matter
Nobody said that.
But what can I expect from you?
Reading and understanding simple words is already a hard task for you.
Once again, when a group in Nct dream's situation (no distribution in America,no preorder links for american fans, not even a morning show appearance) can chart then share it.
Everyone knows how popular got7 were during their peak yet they never charted on bb200, but their member Jackson could and peaked higher than most groups. Why? Got7 was the only jyp group with no distribution deal. Now that's a comparable situation.
And even if they flopped on Billboard like you imply, who cares? Why are asian sales less important? 1million sales alone in korean stores is something to be ashamed of? That's their main market! selling millions in their country is worse than selling 20k in the US?
and yes they proved their kfanbase power with the consistent digital sales + live votes for music shows, they are actually charting higher than the average bgs
Are you serious? The topic is about China sales and I implied that the most sales from nct dream is coming from China and that's a fact, Idk why are you so insecure about that lmaoo.
And why you don't show the comebacks from the last 2 years from Twice?
How about that you read your comments and reread the topic?
You wanna prove me that nct dream would chart when they have the distribution when in fact that they don't have any demand in the US.