Posts by sparrow9

Two honest questions:

I don't understand why they are appealing again. Can they hope for a new panel? Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't they have to pay for the whole trial when they lose? So aren't they just wasting money or is there a good reason? For example, do they don't have to work for hype while the appeal goes on?

If they lose after say a year, and its less money to terminate at that time how long does it take to termiate? Is it just pay the penilty and be done or does that take time.

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What? Can someone help me with the translation please? I'm lost right now.

First of all you said it was your first time on the board. Remember the screenshot. Not the Post. You can't really ex post facto your own posting history like that when there is an actual screenshot of it.

Your entire post is talking about the legal and financial implications and the court case... so the precendent I'm talking about is... the court case and the future judgement from it.

Like literally dude, I've got zero idea of what you're trying to say now.

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your funny I never realized board and forum was the same thing. Have a good day. Instead of attacking people try explaining in a reasonable way. Anyway thank you for the entertainment I had a good laugh at this.

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But anyway let's take this step by step shall we?

First of all there is usually verbiage in the contract clauses specifically allowing the debt to be sold on.

Secondly the clauses are in some jurisdictions mandated by statutory law

Thirdly now here's the fun part if the original lender and new buyer of the debt do not fulfil the contractual and/or statutory obligations in informing you then you do have legal recourse to block the sale of the debt or offer to pay off the debt in full early without penalty, again this is highly dependent on jurisdiction.

Finally you're bringing up their trainee debt. This has already been hashed out in this megathread AND prior megathreads. The original trainee debt AND in fact financing debt for the creation of Ador and in turn Newjeans was paid back in full by year 2.

In addition to this there is no actual trainee debt under any of the Hybe labels, it just isn't structured that way at all. There is no debt, no obligation that can be or should be held over their heads.

This was explained here RE: ADOR - HYBE Mega Thread - Chapter 10 || Summary on page 1

and here RE: ADOR - HYBE Mega Thread - Chapter 9 || Summary on page 1

and here RE: ADOR - HYBE Mega Thread - Chapter 9 || Summary on page 1

So in your hypothetical it's like you paid your mortgage off completely in the first year before they even had a chance to sell it on.

For the rest of what you say, that is up for the courts to decide but frankly I'm bored of people who say "I'm concerned about the other idols" if you were that concerned about the other idols then you'd be all for setting a precedent here and turning the tables against the agencies and putting the entire system on a more even basis.

That you're not...? Well I'm wondering why

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sorry first reading comprehension: I said it was my first time on this post. 2nd how are yoiu setting a preceent by posting on a website where fans only read? The magority of people reading this its entertainment and fun to read. Our comments won't do anything in the long run.

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But anyway let's take this step by step shall we?

First of all there is usually verbiage in the contract clauses specifically allowing the debt to be sold on.

Secondly the clauses are in some jurisdictions mandated by statutory law

Thirdly now here's the fun part if the original lender and new buyer of the debt do not fulfil the contractual and/or statutory obligations in informing you then you do have legal recourse to block the sale of the debt or offer to pay off the debt in full early without penalty, again this is highly dependent on jurisdiction.

Finally you're bringing up their trainee debt. This has already been hashed out in this megathread AND prior megathreads. The original trainee debt AND in fact financing debt for the creation of Ador and in turn Newjeans was paid back in full by year 2.

In addition to this there is no actual trainee debt under any of the Hybe labels, it just isn't structured that way at all. There is no debt, no obligation that can be or should be held over their heads.

This was explained here RE: ADOR - HYBE Mega Thread - Chapter 10 || Summary on page 1

and here RE: ADOR - HYBE Mega Thread - Chapter 9 || Summary on page 1

and here RE: ADOR - HYBE Mega Thread - Chapter 9 || Summary on page 1

So in your hypothetical it's like you paid your mortgage off completely in the first year before they even had a chance to sell it on.

For the rest of what you say, that is up for the courts to decide but frankly I'm bored of people who say "I'm concerned about the other idols" if you were that concerned about the other idols then you'd be all for setting a precedent here and turning the tables against the agencies and putting the entire system on a more even basis.

That you're not...? Well I'm wondering why

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So question: I bought my house and I went to the mortgage company, lets call it CB. Two months after I got my loan, it transferred to another mortgage company called RA, then six months later RA sold it to LO. So can I say I signed my contract with CB and since its no longer the company I signed up with and I don't like or trust new compnay I don't have to pay back my loan?

That what Newjeans essentially did when they signed a contract to become an idol, they are essentially taking a loan for training and promotion. They don't have to stay, but they have to pay it back before they can leave. Yes, the way they treat idols in business is bad but in this case, newjeans are not explaining how they were mistreated. As for trust, they have to prove how the trust was broken.

This is my first post on this board and I was quite since I wanted newjeans to make a difference in how companies treat there idols, but I think they went about it the wrong way. I think people backing them, its going to hurt other idols in the future who have real proof of breach of trust to prove that in courts because of this case. If they have real reasons and they present that then I will back them up but right now they have not presented anything. And before you say its the first day, and they haven't presented all the evidence, then we should all stop speculating until that evidence comes to light.

Greyhounds or the smaller one Italian Greyhounds.

New York for me. First there a lot more the just New York city. There is long Island for the beaches and history. and there all of upper New York that has some of the best hiking and waterfalls (Nagra to name one). There is so much culture from famous museums like Moma and Natural history museum to some of the oldest forts and homes. To Broadaway plays and sporting arena.

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Not you seriously entertaining Seulgiabs

What can I say I'm bored, and I felt bad that this was going to be a flop discussion.

I mean yes and no. Will some fangirl leave yes, but they were not real fans. But look at the beetles (not saying BTS is a big as them). In the 60 a lot of women loved them for their looks. Now look at Paull McCarthy he still selling CD and selling out tours, so who to say that BTS will not. Not to mention a large percentage of their fans are men, and older women so you can say that its only about looks. The last thing I want to say is that if Big Bang raised a new CD t would probably still sell good. The issue is the members wanting to move on to different things.

It's probably a photo book

I think we will get Backpink comeback right after we get that BIg Bang comeback, they promised us

have this concert on video, I actuary found it in a thrift store for $5. They were so cute back then.

I'm not surprised. what albums did they release last quoter? One maybe two. DO they have any other forms of income? Besides their artist they still have to pay their other employees (lawyers, stylist, accountants) and overhead expenses (rent, taxes, utilities). They need to rethink their quality over quantity I believe to make it back to being profitable.

I think what Hype does right is concentrate on getting s lot of different producers and writers that makes their songs different. Other companies look at the idols first. Which while not necessary bad, but if you have 4 groups and only one producer/writer all the songs tend to song the same. Which then overshadows great vocals.

So sad rest in peace and my prays go out to his family,

I am generally getting so much joy seeing his friend's reaction to what he looks like.

He will be missed wonderful tennis player and a legend for the ages.

That was beautiful there are no other words. Their voices together go so well I am so happy that they got to do this song together I love their friendship.

I think this is kinda like any review for a company. Most people don't review a company, they work with there a saying the only revies are bad reviews. Think of yelp in the US you mostly get people reviewing who are mad and want to share that. Is what they're saying true probably, but I think that it also depends what department and if their full time or internship. If their internship, then of course the company going t o be bad all internship jobs suck.

I say give it 15 more min and will have the whole performance online in HD , if it not already