giving them clout on this forum, jyp stans just refuse to do so
Well you should enjoy the bubble while it last then.
Posts by justbored1212
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Dude seems a huge hybe stan and pressed about jyp girl groups 💀. Second time dissing a different jyp girl group
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Is alright bro. Everyone has their perspectives but facts ought not to be ignored. Im not even Newjeans stan but to say NewJeans sold that much for debut album based on HYBE/BTS stans are such a stupid argument and it only shows how certain fans want to discredit Newjeans so much to fit into their narrative
Dude I like Newjeans and their music. Why are you discrediting NMIXX achievements then? Isn't it the same case with how you're saying certain fans want to discredit Newjeans? NMIXX targeted a niche market and maybe they liked it? Also, people anticipate jyp girl groups and have high expectations. Advocating their doubts on achievement claims is kinda discrediting them. You're being convenient with the situation.
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finally someone with logic on this forum 🥹🥹🥹
Everything is logical if it support one’s claims 🤡
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The newjeans argument is so weak because they created hype with the song first before releasing on streaming platform and physical album. Dont act like MHJ + Attention the song didnt get them the support. Not sure how you would think armies (majority of so called HYBE fans) would suddenly go for Girl group of their labelmates. Can the same be said about lesserafim since they are under Hybe too?
I get they created hype with the song but 500k+ just because of the song when the fanbase wasn't even built yet? Really? There's several artist out there with dope pre-releases, they haven't been able to secure even 50k. My conclusion is both group were backed by company stans. And its no exception for your bias groups.
With NMIXX, jyp's girl groups are always anticipated. GP loves them so they were into it and wanted to get albums beforehand. I could say that for NMIXX then?
With lesserafim, they had Sakura and Chaewon from Izone and they barely touched 500k sales. Smh
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Welp I clearly said it's not bad at all. No one said others like Nj didn't benefits from company stans. Cant you read my last paragraph? The situation I given is from now not on their debut era. While Nj themselves has gather outside attention other than Hybe stans, Nmixx still being hard carry by Jyp stans compared to other groups. Other groups I listed above other than Nmixx all consistently being in top 10 in Korea chart and also doing well international chart. So, where Nmixx stand here?
For Nj, a lot of non fans actually buying their albums. Their bluebook album going super viral in my country where a lot of celebrity doing an unboxing vid and they're not a kpop fans.
But how do you know if NMIXX is carried by the company stans?? Are you a part of that company stans to verify? Or them not charting properly in Korean charts? I guess then all the boy groups with million sales are hanging on by the company stans from what their charting looks like. Or you'd have to be from JYP where you know where the sales are coming from or whose fans are buying it to claim that they're company stans 🤡
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Itzy was attacked for the same thing you are suggesting that it was mostly TWICE fans bulk buying their albums but that proved to be false just like NMIXX's Album Sales are their own merit.
NMIXX's Midsummer NMIXX dream sold 719k Albums on their first day, it's a record for a JYPE GG, they also hold the 3rd highest JYPE GG 1st Day Album Sales too.
The majority of Album Sales are through Pre-Orders meaning the Song Ranking is irrelevant since no-one but Insiders have heard the Title Track.
DigiPacks are the main factor for increasing album sales, at least since the 4th generation as they weren't widely used in the previous gens.
As for Company Stans, there aren't many that buy albums from anyone outside their bias, especially from JYPE that have 5 active South Korean Idol Groups
Dude you just stole my words from my mouth. Spot on!
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judging by their tone, i guess justbored1212 is no longer bored
Lol yeah right. I'm just shocked that they're so deeply invested in a group that they find the song disastrous. That's keeping me intrigued.
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you like it, i don’t. you can praise it as a god sent song and i can diss it for finding it horrendous. this is a kpop forum, i need u to relax and stop quoting me.. four quotes in like 45 minutes it’s like you’re just camping on this thread waiting for people to say something 😭😭 please let it go Luv
Lol yeah I'm camping. This is a kpop forum.
Best you can do is avoid replying so why do you do the same? You're camping ig??? You know you can let it go first right luv?
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well in newjeans case, ofc they had eyes on them from both hybe and sm but i hope you know that they released 3/4 songs before the album dropped. they released almost all concept images and what the album would look like. they had cute bags that even non fans were buying... nmixx had pre-orders started like almost a year ago 💀 imagine fans buying their album and then being hit with a disastrous song like O.O 😭 i would cry
Also, why do you say disastrous song? I like it, some other listeners like it. People have different tastes. Doesn't mean what you like, I'm going to like it. So its all subjective. I might not like the same food you eat but I can't say that its a disastrous food? lol
Be a respectful fan so other respect your likings and opinions. Comment like yours is what creates feuds between fans.
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you need to re-read where i clearly started my take by mentioning that they had support from hybe AND sm stans. literally the first thing I mentioned. 🤡 no one’s denying that, but you also shouldn’t deny the fact that that people pre-ordered 200k nmixx albums BEFORE they even knew the group name or any of the members. the day newjeans news dropped was the day they dropped their attention music video followed by hurt and hybe boy in the span of a week. people KNEW what they were getting into, knew the members, what their music sounded like, what their sound direction was going to be like. imagine just blindly ordering an album just because they’re the next jyp girl group. THATS the difference and the point I was trying to make. big 4 privilege is insane but jyp stans are on a whole other level
And pre-ordering 200k albums without knowing the group name is a part of big 4 privileges 💀 and I clearly mentioned that NMIXX benefits from it 🤡🤡. smh 🤦🏻♂️
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well in newjeans case, ofc they had eyes on them from both hybe and sm but i hope you know that they released 3/4 songs before the album dropped. they released almost all concept images and what the album would look like. they had cute bags that even non fans were buying... nmixx had pre-orders started like almost a year ago 💀 imagine fans buying their album and then being hit with a disastrous song like O.O 😭 i would cry
Don't get me wrong but I like NJ's music but how would a newly debuted group with no fanbases built sell 500k+? Because they did pre-releases and album designs? 💀💀 That's called big 4 privileges. And the same goes for NMIXX
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well in newjeans case, ofc they had eyes on them from both hybe and sm but i hope you know that they released 3/4 songs before the album dropped. they released almost all concept images and what the album would look like. they had cute bags that even non fans were buying... nmixx had pre-orders started like almost a year ago 💀 imagine fans buying their album and then being hit with a disastrous song like O.O 😭 i would cry
lol excuses. Then there's other groups like KOL where they did pre-releases. The pre-releases were good. Did they hit even 50k??? NO! So, dude all you got to do is chill and not have exceptions for your favorites. You may not like NMIXX releases but maybe their fans do. Just stop being a toxic fan.
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Aespa has a huge china fanbase just behind Blackpink, Lsf have Chaewon and Sakura which why they're super popular in Japan, Itzy is a 4 year old group with a hit under their belt and Newjeans basically gp favorite.
This is all outside of what company stans can do.
But Nmixx, they have a really huge sales without any hit and questionable TT for every cb. Not to mention that whenever I see any of their fans, they mostly also a fans of other JYP groups even here in akp. Kep1er is what will happen to Nmixx if they're coming from non big 4. They have exactly same problem that people kinda dislike their TT.
Not like it's something negative but it's weird why in other discussion of whose having the most company stans, people seems to not see it in Nmixx. Are they too unnoticeable?
Its funny why you'd just point out Nmixx?? Aren't any big4 the same? How did NJ sell like 500k+ on their debut? Wasn't that company stans? And what if the company stans support them? Is that bad? All big 4 groups tend to sell more because of it. smh
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I listened to the leak in twitter and hated it at first but now its pretty damn good. Leaking it probably was JYP's marketing plan
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How popular was CNBLUE?
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How come jyp channel isn't even in the list?
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Does anybody know the top 10 highest pre-orders in kpop?
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do you guys realize how revolutionary Blood Sweat & Tears was? It was the representative kpop song internationally in 2016-17. The comparison is absurd :confused:
So, did you expect the same when BTS was about to comeback with it? No, right? That's the same thing in this situation. They're gaining momentum internationally by a lot. You never know they might or might not. Who knows, they might bring another revolution.
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can you not compare the two groups, please and thank you.
Its not comparing two groups but telling a measure of success. Idk why you had to think in a negative way.
