Posts by ForgottenSoul
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I don't care about this boy group or any 4th gen boy group. I just saw one of my besties comment on this thread and was curious only to find out that only a girl group stan on this thread is having a meltdown of a song and group they have NO idea how they are doing in South Korea hundreds of miles away in some foreign country.
I posted like one comment like wtf are you saying, literally cant have a different opinion?
I added their song to my playlist like you people are freaks
Me being a girl group stan is irrelvant and not really true.. I like more boy groups and only like BP..
I have like 3 girl groups vs like 7 boy groups in my most listened on spotify but im girl group stan.. xd
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Why are you so mad and emotionally invested in this? It's not breaking news that there are always sajaegi accusations any time a relative unknown makes an unexpected surge up the charts. You're not providing any hard evidence, just conjecture and speculative interpretations, but Confirmation Bias ahoy! is what it looks like to me.
Please present your findings in the digital thread and let's see if your theories here hold up.
How is talking about something and posting some proof me being emotional invested?
There are not always sajaegi accusations actually if a song rises and goes viral.. makes sense but if a song doesnt go viral and its from a rookie boy group and the song never lost UL even at times all other songs did its pretty obvious whats happening. No-one called out RIIZE song for this.. because the song rose quite normally.
I already prevented my findings here dont need to carry this converstation on especially not with you.
TWS song is acting like a viral hit without going viral.
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does it ever comes to your mind that maybe people are just genuinely enjoy the song? Lol no wonder why a 3 weeks old rookie is making you insecure
How am I insecure for agreeing with people that this songs rise is clearly not legit and yeah now im sure some people do like it, and yeah a 3 week old rookie group seems to have a super strong fandom so their UL never drop.
If all songs drop at a certain time but this one song doesnt is that not weird? If all songs drop on the weekend as normal since forever is this one song rising not weird?
Just use that brain.
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Thank you for being the mouthpiece for literally every person in Korea.
We can all close shop and go home now, everyone. ForgottenSoul has spoken on behalf of the entire Republic of Korea and can confirm not a person there knows this song that's top 3 on every digital chart.
Maybe if you paid attention this song has been suspicous and called out in Korea for a while now , whether 1 person knows the song is note hugely relevant. Their trend is obviously sajaegi, some obviously know it now because after it being called out for sajaegi people check it out so guess it worked.
Why payola and sajaegi when all charts are consistent? Some ppl just use their timeline as the Korean benchmark
The song is acting like a viral trend but its not really trending thats the issue , the song's rise was obviously sajaegi but now people checking it out I guess.
Idk why this group is getting hit with fraud claims. They are charting consistently on all charts including YT SK.
Maybe because the song was rising in UL at nightime or weekends when songs drop.. even IU drops UL at those times but this rookie broke the trend? Truly a magical song indeed.
[enter-talk] TWS' SAJAEGI ON DIGITAL CHART IS IMPRESSIVEWe translate Pann articles about Korean news, music, drama and lifestylewww.pannchoa.comGoes into it
1. This song is doing even better than Perfect Night and Rhapsody of Sadness, meanwhile Perfect Night's Reels have over 50M views and TWS' Reels have 5M views
2. During the first 2 weeks, the number of listeners have never decreased once and they're the only song who have even seen an increase during the weekend (the only person who hasn't decreased over the weekend until today is Im Youngwoong)
3. And even during the soccer matches (weekends), they're the only singers within the TOP100 who didn't see a decrease and instead increased in listeners
4. After their release, they have never seen a decrease in listeners
Not decreasing once in listeners when people like IU does?? Its just obvious
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Thank God my faves don't need to resort to this even though they are nugu
They aint even that nugu.. they sell a lot of albums and tour to a lot..
Most gen 4 boy grouyps did nothing in Korea so no real difference.
Hopefully this will upgrade their profile
Currently they are nugu level
With this they will be on subcelebrity level
If they are nugu level then I guess all the top gen 4 boy groups in Korea are nugu..
What kind of fangirl would want to see their biases dating other girls??
If they joke dated eachother now that would be content
well Gen 2 fans did like that shit tbh
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sure, if that helps you sleep better at night
Doesnt need to help me sleep better? Literally no-one in Korea thinks this song is rising at a legit rate.
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South Korea is rejoicing there's finally some new bg song they can actually listen
SK doesnt know this song lol.
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damn, the song really blew up
It didnt blow up literally everyone knows its sajaegi/Payola the song is literally trending no where in Korea
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its alr sounds 10000000000000000000000000000000000x better than wtv the idol was
idk why jennie even chose that out of all things
BUT CONGRATS LISAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Why rats gotta compare shit the other girls do..The Idol has gave Jennie a mini hit so was worth
Anyways interested to see her part love white lotus.
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Operating profit dropped 51.7% to 10.9 billion won ($8.3 million)
Thats a big drop
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Well like I said, this isn't about opinion, just reading data and making judgments based off that. If you think there is no data which allows a fair comparison but also feel Twice is obvious better just because you like their music more and none of the achievements listed in this thread for Newjeans are valid, there isn't really anything to discuss here.
I literally dont like Twice music, Twice just had viral trends while NJ to me doesnt.
You can read all the data you want.
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You serious about that?
Hype Boy, Ditto, OMG and Super Shy are easily some of the biggest hits of last few years. This is getting ridiculous if you say their songs wont be remembered in few years
I have been thru Twice's prime years and of course Newjeans'. It is totally not sensible to downplay Newjeans like this (im not tokki nor once) when they literally had the chart top3 locked for few months, longest charting #1 and longest run in fop 10
I mean its my opinion whats so hard to understand? Twice had viral trends.. NJ songs are just there.
I dont think NJ songs will be rembered we can just wait and find out?
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This post is the best example I can find in here of just how disconnected perception of how songs like TT and Cheer Up performed in Korea versus western perception in the Kpop fandom. They were big hits, but not in any way the same way Ditto was.
For reference, as of the last week , Ditto was #28 on Melon Daily and #21 on Circle Weekly. This is after well over a year (Really 14 months) since release.
For comparison, 1 year after release, Cheer Up was at 77 on Gaon/Circle Weekly and TT was not even charting at all anymore. This is in line with say, how HYLT by Blackpink performed, 1 year after release it was at 69 on the same chart.
We keep going through this because either people aren't reading the data being presented or are just going by what they personally liked better. Because really, there is a very strong argument that Ditto is the single most successful single track in the history of Kpop dating back to the 90's, but perception amongst people in the west is that it is just one of many successful songs.
Your comparing different times , songs have more staying power now days then back then so using that as a argument is not really useful but yeah Ditto is remaining on the charts for a while but that still doesnt change my opinion.
I dont need to read data to give my opinion? I dont think NJ songs will be remembered, time will tell.
"there is a very strong argument that Ditto is the single most successful single track in the history of Kpop dating back to the 90's" Has gotta be one of the most delusional shit ive read holy.
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I think Twice had like viral trends I dont think NJ really is.
I think Twice songs will be remembered I dont NJ will.
Cheer up and TT were pretty massive and trendy and I dont think any of NJ songs really are.
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I mean cube were right but yeah does seem weird to make the girls pay? Seems like they wont re sign.
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I mean most likely? BP was released years ago and physical sales did hit a peak since then.