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How did this thread turn into the new Hybe Ador thread lmao

people are lazy, I had to go to the search bar to find the thread and posted the news there!

MHJ's injunction seems to have been dismissed. I'm not seeing a lot of details about it.

[2보] 민희진 '어도어 대표 재선임' 좌절…법원, 가처분 각하 | 연합뉴스

(서울=연합뉴스) 이대희 기자 = 민희진 어도어 전 대표가 자신을 대표이사로 재선임해 달라는 가처분을 법원이 받아들이지 않았다.

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Just to name a few...

"OMG" - NewJeans

"Latata" - (G)I-DLE

People forget about this one due to recency bias.

"HWAA" - (G)I-DLE

This one was very impactful when it came out. Felt like a shift in K-pop.

"Oh my god" - (G)I-DLE

"Butterfly" - LOONA

"ASAP" - STAYC

"9 and Three Quarters (Run Away)" - TXT

People also forget about this one due to recency bias.

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BG here stands for Boy groups not Ban Gers although your selection does qualify for that hehe

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Seventeen's Seungkwan speaks out in Instagram post

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I don't want to see us hurting each other anymore.

As I've watched everything that has happened over time, I kept moving forward with the hope that somehow, things would pass, holding back my emotions and working hard with the members, just as I've always done. But now, watching and waiting for the fire to die out is no longer an option. For my people who are getting hurt - my fans and my members - for all my colleagues who are working hard at this very moment, I feel I can no longer remain silent.

To some, this may seem like meddling, to others, a rash statement, but I decided to speak up with courage just once.

Being a celebrity is a path I chose, and there are parts I must endure since I receive so much love. But I don't believe it's a job where I should have to endure to the point of hurting myself, tearing myself down to the brink of collapse just to hold on.

I simply want to do my best and take responsibility in the role I was given, to repay my fans who love me, and to share any positive energy I can offer in various ways. The burden, pressure and physical and mental fatigue are honestly beyond what words can express.

Yet even in this moment, we must persevere. Some view things logically, some try to stay positive, and others, even when it's tough, adapt and ensudure however they can. Because I chose this path, I am supposed to bear the weight of it, but today, that reason feels so merciless and harsh.

Some days are bright, and others are cloudy - today is a particularly cloudy day for me. Have I not had days where I tried to face things positively? Have I not tried to smile, no matter what? But today it's not easy, and I feel heartbroken for those who are hurting at this very moment. It's frustrating that I cannot embrace everyone. I wonder if my clumsy words can resonate or offer comfort.

Including my members, the colleagues and friends I know in the large Kpop industry are people who genuinely love what they do. Because of their deep sincerity, they get hurt, and because of their great love, they sometimes feel empty. But day by day, they live, giving and receiving love for themselves, their members, their families and fans.

This is something I want to make clear: these are not people who live ordinary, easy lives to be so casually judged and discussed. They have felt pain, they have fallen, and they still push forward with all they have to show their best ons stage for their fans. I wish people wouldn't take idols lightly.

You don't have the right to easily involve yourself in our story. This goes not just for us but for other artists, too. We are not your commodities. I hope you don't think you can just use and enjoy us however you like.

Even with just a week of music shows, all our energy is drained. On top of that, there are ads, events, concerts and other schedules. Despite this, nowadays, there are many colleagues who greet me warmly with a smile, even more than I do. Every time I see that, IZ smile back. That's all I can offer them. Every time they greet us with a powerful smile, I am grateful. Even a line from a message written in an album can uplift my spirits on a tiring day. All I want is for everyone to be healthy and free of pain.

I like the challenge culture too. Whether we are close or not, sharing a video of us dancing together is a small yet beautiful memory for us during the best days of our youth. And if fans enjoy it, that's even better. Even if we don't know each other, just one word of encouragement after filming, saying "good luck with your activities" brings warmth. I believe it's meaningful and something to be thankful for to meet with respect and offer even a little help.

Though I should be the first to make an effort, I wish we could all be a little warmer. If we could view, support and love each other warmly, things might get a bit better. I truly dislike watching someone break down and finally let go. I hope we can stop causing wounds we can't take responsibility for. That's my earnest wish, I no longer want to see my members, our hardworking colleagues, the dedicated staff and our fans who genuinely care, getting hurt.

To the fans who continue to love us warmly, I want to say I am sorry and I love you.

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His letter is so beautiful and holds much meaning. Sadly, I think it's going to be interpreted the way people want when it's a message that goes beyond. It's very much prompted by the Hybe situation (considering it impacted his group and his members) and directed at them and goes beyond to those that spread hate and bash idols on their free time. Whether those ended up on that damned report or those that think this scandal is enough reason to trash Hybe groups.

Heaven additional preview (there's only a little more of the song but there's a cute choreo)

Higher than Heaven preview (more of the song)

chart wise, none really and i don't have any that are considered legendary songs although we do have to wait a few years to have a song have the legendary status

I'll put my favourite which is one of the most liked in and outside fandom, in sk and internationally for 4th gen bgs.

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So Hybe has been copied SM way to copy?

They are obsessed with SM.

What SM plagiarism btw?

Isn't they are the first in kpop ?

Who were they copied from ?

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they are both obsessed with copying yeah and passing as original afterwards

I've been following kpop since 2019 so I don't have all the tea but I do remember outfits, photoshoots being very heavily inspired without credits. There's also been a Dream bside that suddenly had bighit producers added after a heavy similarity to a txt bside was shown.

Tbh kpop has never been 100% original, and hybe and sm being the flagships of that is no surprise

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Mentioning the dating rumors of a member from the HYBE group ○○○, it proposed a marketing direction, stating, "Membership is such a large part of the team's value that the extreme need for ○○○ (member name) to leave isn't mainstream opinion," but noted, "However, since this incident is clearly hurtful from the fandom’s perspective, there needs to be some kind of ‘catalyst’ for fans to pretend to move on."

In addition, there was a mention of the online community's trends concerning the re-signing issues of its own group ○○○○○ and the responses to each member. They noted, "Recently, the ○○○○○ fandom has many internal issues festering, and since it’s difficult to point out the causes within the team immediately, they are likely to vent their frustrations against the company for a while." They added, "The recent demands for lawsuits related to ○○ (online community name) likely stem from this flow of reaction."

little did they know...

i was going to say like that's my one and only problem with the song (indirect promotion of a drinking game although again it's indirect) but reading the article it's about specific lyrics including the "kissy" ones. Damn, if they have to do that each time the lyrics get just a little freaky (barely here), it's neverending

Girl, I wouldn't rule out the spying and believe me, I have no love lost towards hybe for what they did to others and their own group. But LSRF's comeback and How Sweet do not sound alike... Idk at all for Crazy ans Whiplash but both sounds like trend hopping to me.

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P*****0a having party revealing old controversy around Hybe "get inspired by/follow common trends" concepts for all their groups.

I wonder if aespa live my life MV is sarcasm to Hybe group who keep copying here and there.

funnily enough, live my life MV has several similarities to a Hybe MV from 2021 but according to those conspiracies here, they probably copied way in advance . Also talking about a SM MV is funny considering SM's plagiarism history. I'll give props to them tho, that they plagiarize mostly (not all) outside of the kpop realm.

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If it were any of my faves, I would be mad at both for different reasons.

I'd be mad at HYBE for doing such a thing in the first place and taking no accountability.

I'd be mad at the portion of the public who uses this event to harass and bully my faves, instead of seeing the fact that the members themselves had no part in the company's shady behavior.

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Fuck HYBE for being absolute shits. dog shit company with dog shit executives with incredibly large egos

and Fuck the public for not separating the artist from the company

I was going to form an opinion but you summed it up quite well.

I'm pissed by hybe for their stark incompetence and the way it insults groups and backfires on their own.

They used yeonjun to insult his own best friend. I feel bad for changbin. And yj already had quite nasty comments those past months so we've had enough.

They've talked of txt using comparisons leading people to talk down on txt's achievements even though they are doing well everywhere. Now knetizens on forums are blabbering about a supposed favoritism when factually there's not anything supporting it.

Funnily enough, that fan fiction Lovesong comparison is probably fake and not on the report but it is one of the least harmful things. It even got the song more unique listeners on Melon so eh.

Overall I don't think my faves got it harsher than others but I fear that the upcoming comeback will be full of people questioning their achievements even though it's legitimate.

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Exciting descriptions

it's quite varied but still coherent overall as it is a refreshing comeback/album! And it's been a long time since they haven't had an album with all songs being positive lyrics wise lol

You know the news about a specific gate for celebrities at the Incheon airport? A decision made to avoid too much crowd and also safety hazard.

Well it's a privilege and it's not fair, according to complaints from "public" so Incheon airport has decided to withdraw its decision.

Wonder who that "public" might be?

(original decision)

I'm not in favor of celebrity privileges overall but that one made sense, not only for the celebrity's security but for people at the airport too but hey the "public" complained

Some info about the tracks' genres

Resist is reggaeton?!!!!

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Over the Moon sounds amazing —

right!! I know it'll be exquisite though I'm a bit cautious for the preview as it's typical bighit teasing with adlibs and minimum instrumental (they did it for srr's preview and as moarmy i can't not talk about first mv teasers lol). I want those pretty vocals and hope they won't be too hidden!

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Oh this album will eat.

I appreciate you coming to say that here too, a little color in this dull atmosphere

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I have to say, I’m really looking forward to this one- lots of variation, beautiful visuals so far… can’t wait!

Right?! I already like the songs a lot from snippets only. It happens a lot with txt. Too bad the songs are super short (all below 2:50 ffs)

It's here! Title track is "Over the Moon".

Individually

Heaven:

Forty One Winks

Resist (Not Gonna Run Away)

Higher than Heaven

Over the Moon

Out on November 4th!

Come here MoaTaglist and non moas

I've not read everything but it's enough to make my blood boil. I'm going to talk about specific examples but that's not to say the rest does not irks me. The comparing of yeonjun and changbin like eff that, it's not okay doing that to anyone, how must they feel as best friends for over 5 years?! The BTS solos riling is also maddening. And in the end their own groups are getting hate and also conspiracy theories because at that point, anything could be right, eh?

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HYBE Internal Documents Seemingly Confirm Suspicions That TXT’s “0X1=LOVESONG” Was Written Based On A Yeonjun X Beomgyu Fanfiction

I don't believe that tho. It doesn't seem attached to the actual report but random internal documents. I don't know what's the purpose and won't try to make it a conspiracy but I think Hybe's internal report is already such a dumpster fire on its own

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Dude really needs to shine like the star he is… oh wait, was.

but the star he was was in Korea, I hope he likes crickets because that's what he'll hear (although knowing him he'll get a popular idol to get some of their clout