Song of The Year: I have a huge gut feeling New Jeans will take that home with Ditto, but IVE is a pretty close competitor.
Album of the Year: It’s definitely gonna be a brawl between Seventeen and Stray Kids for this one, and ultimately might boil down to judges score.
Artist of the Year: This definitely feels like Seventeen vs New Jeans category.
Worldwide Icon: the group with strong fandom votes will take it, so only time will tell.
List of Seventeen concert tours - Wikipedia in particular see total for 2022.
This was the actual total for 2022 that was actually reported for 34 shows.
Seventeen is very relevant, you’re just looking at the wrong places if you think they are irrelevant.
Seventeen is not very concentrated in building a Western fanbase, as their targeted markets within Asia.
If you go to SoKor, Japan, or China, that’s where their fanbases is extremely concentrated (you may even add SEA to this, as they rapidly growing their fanbase there too). They do really well on charts and sales there and are one of the only few groups to do so as well. They are always a relevant topic on their side of the forums and platform, and rake up quite a lot of discussion and views for just existing.
If you’re taking AKP as an indicator for relevancy then that’s a very fickle measure, because pre-revamp of AKP, there were a LOT of Carats here. Probably exceeding 60 to 70 if memory serves me right, but one by one they all left due to constant bullying and dragging of Seventeen and moved to other platforms such as Reddit or Twitter, etc. hence, using western forums as an indicator isn’t the best measure of relevance.
5th Gen is just Mnet trying to be special, it’s still 4th Gen as far as I’m aware. Other than Mnet, no one is really considering ZB1 5th generation, unless their debut can shift the vibe the way early 3rd/ 4th generation groups did.
Wait, you’re right!
I Don’t Understand But I Luv U lowkey does give Exo vibes!
Honestly I can’t choose which bside is my favourite. This album as a whole is too good.
As generic as it is, Super is my favourite so far, and the rest remain unranked because I can’t choose from the gems.
yeah they could easily have done that without the weird zooming in randomly and so fast. like at least show a decent close up of everyone before zoomin in and out and this way and that way, but that's something easily over looked. not a huge deal.
Personally I found the shots very nice, it definitely got the message across which I liked.
It’s personally my favourite mv so for, followed closely by Hot for me.
If overdramatic was a user, it’d be you. 
Not my type of song, but maybe I'll find something on their bsides
Check out the whole album!! It’s absolutely amazing, I’m sure you will find something you will enjoy!
it 's a bop the choreo is stunning and i loved the video though the camera work was a bit annoying!
I think the main point of the mv was to highlight the teamwork and crew since there are few to none solo shots.
seventeen in their ateez era? song is bad...like not even bad like it's evil bad....sick bad....I don't know we gotta pray for seventeen cause something ain't right.....stuck in that set the whole mv what's going on....what happened to pretty u....evil....sick....sinister music....love them though.....
Lmao did they kill your pet or something? 💀
I think they outdid themselves by a large margin.
I am absolutely in awe of the amount of effort and detail that went into production for this MV.
Super is an undeniably a BOP.
Hey guys, I know everyone’s having a lovely discussion, but do check this out:
The snippet near the end of the song already sounds like SOTY.
I wish I could say any of the things listed here justifies 4 million but it really doesn’t. These are achievements for a successful kpop group no doubt. But nothing here is so extra ordinary that I can be convinced they can shoot up to 4 million.
With these type of stats in my head kpop groups can get like 2-2.5mil sales. More than that well. Idk where the numbers are coming from. Doesn’t mean it’s not legitimate just that I don’t understand where the numbers are coming from in my head lol.
Honestly, that could be said about 1M and 2M sales benchmarks as well that Kpop groups are achieving, and then we all can sit here all day grasping at straws. Though, I get where you’re coming from. However, it’s not that these achievements “justify” their 4M preorder sales, rather it broadens one’s perspective and view on how rapidly they are growing their fanbase and how big they’ve gotten. It’s an indication of their success and growth. There is a reason, Cj&EM had their eyes set on Seventeen, but luckily, Hybe managed to acquire them first.
and our bubble is immense.
even immense seems like an understatement, you just have to join the bubble to know just how big it really is
Display MoreLook I can’t be the only one thinking that right 😭
Anyway this might be taken as a bashing post and I apologize in advance if that’s the case
But wtf is up with sales 😭
When BTS sold 4 million I was like yeah that makes sense. When groups started selling 1 million on average I was like yeah kpop has grown a lot
But we went from one and two million to now FOUR MILLION?
INSERT THATS ENOUGH SLICES MEME.
Is seventeen that big?
Is KPOP that big? Because if 17 can other groups will also follow in some 1-2 years when their popularity rises
But man I can’t I just can’t four million sales is going to become something that’s gonna be a thing in kpop eye- wtf 😭😭
Sorry, but this is about to turn into an essay, so open at your own caution.
If you wanna blame anyone for this lengthy block of text, you can blame xoxoshawol for summoning me here. 🫶
let's not assume things folks
True, at this point this is starting to feel like a case of investigation 💀
Don't think this is a case for religion bcuz I remember talking with him in the same time period last year
Ah, oh interesting.
Though the thing w/ Ramadan is that, according to the Islamic calendar, it’s not fixed like a typical calendar. It‘s always being pushed back by a week or two every year. So last year Ramadan didn’t start in March, but in April-May, this year it’s March-April, so that could be another thing to consider.
ilysm ty for the encouragement
I just got back on track rn tho I understand nothing so far abt multi variable calc. But I will figure the whole thing by tonight, cuz tmr is for practice 😎
Motivation:
✨I plan building a career by the end of my 4 years not a sea of student loan debt bcuz thats haram✨
