Jfc get her away from this rapist
Posts by burntsocks
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lmao it does, wonder how knetz missed that. the post I saw about it two days ago didn't include that, seemed weird to me that there was an article focusing on just the domestic numbers. I guess they added the melon followers part just to make the mediaplay less obvious
Media play or not it's amusing how easily it's being dismissed when even if it's "just" Chinese bulk buying skewing the chart it still means that Stray Kids's Chinese fans managed to buy 400K more than BTS in under 3 months (Maxident was released in october).
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both are true
because the article come from Naver and sbs news
and the title is also true because "Maxident" is the most sold album in korean retail
Yonhap also published it and it contains a response from JYPE which means they were approached formally
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I think it's funny not a single chart account on twitter posted about this even though it's perfectly official numbers from Circle
They created this offline chart precisely because ifans were being blamed for some high sales so it's like a million Chinese fans came to Korea to buy an album in stores, if you listen to some of the excuses
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Ami are trying to justify the flop by lack of payola radio play... except BTS had a lot more airplay and sales than Joji's ballad and Bad Bunny's track at #8. While BTS only half their number of streams lmao US troops legit dropped the ball on this one.
External Content twitter.comContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.this was the prediction but they probably had even less streams if they got knocked out of the top 10 in the end
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The interesting thing is, everyone loudly claims BTS are the all powerful national treasure of South Korea, bigger than any other Korean artist has ever been, so important that the government can't possibly let them enlist lest the tourism, industry, cuisine and entire economy of the country suffer the loss in revenue terribly.
But as soon as you suggest they act as such, and for something other than their personal gain or glory, suddenly BTS are toothless feeble nugu lambs more powerless than an infant and completely devoid of any influence and visibility at all anywhere.
So which is it?
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You don't respect him as an individual or an artist but you somehow think that Yoongi HAS to do things a certain way, because you said so?
BTS never went on TV shows etc and talked about the difficulties they faced as a nugu idol group from a small company... they made songs about it. BTS was making songs about their idol status and the difficulties they faced as trainees from pre debut. Go tell other top idols who frequent TV shows and other programs and even have turned into TV personalities to talk about these issues on air, this is not BTS's style. They act on the change, have done so all their careers and not just talk about it.
He already outlined the steps leading to change, publicly... his work is done.
I don't think he HAS to do anything, I'm merely criticizing his statements the same way he criticized music shows and other companies. As it stands I have offered real solutions even if I can do fck all, he has only offered words even if he's in perfect position to do a lot.
They talked about their past difficulties on You Quiz only 5 months ago. They talk about those often.
He has outlined the steps but no else one can follow them on their own, because they'd actually be shunned and blacklisted. He could have offered support, instead he lit the match to burn the house down.
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just so you know, ive reported this comment which is completely out of line. You want him to help your faves while dissing him in the same breath?
I'm not dissing him, it's an objective observation on his personality based on his lyrics and vlives, and interviews, and twitter posts... He can be both inspiring and petty, that's being human.
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Are you able to grasp a simple fact that idols sign atleast seven year contract with companies... and most companies don't treat them like artists or delicately think about what is good for the idols as individuals. They just see money.
But you somehow imagine BTS Yoongi to go collect active idols from different companies and start a revolt.... against the companies and the industry? and then get the idols sued and black listed? What a big-brained idea! It is the companies' responsibility to bring active change for their idols, not Yoongi's.
The whole point here is Yoongi and BTS extending their 'bulletproof' status in order to do some good and protect other young people directly for once. It's not about a revolt, there is strength in numbers and solidarity and these people could actually leverage their way into changing things, even if slowly.
Companies will never see any need to change if there isn't actual discussion of how it could be done instead of the music show viewership and reputation just being threatened even further the way it is from Yoongi's criticism.
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He could also tell the tv station people to change the time, you know to accommodate ifans, maybe have lavender scented soap in the toilets and maybe have the air conditioner on 24 or 25 degrees. We don't want anything getting a chill.
Considering how petty and insecure he can be about certain things, I can definitely see him making diva demands instead of actually working in solidarity. That's what good people do, not savage idol rappers.
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that's called giving an opinion ......
by your logic you shouldn't be critizing his answer on this site, since you're not making any change either
I can't change anything with my opinion, but he can change plenty if he chooses to.
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You give a solution then. What's your idea? What would bring change? You better not be talking cheap either.
Unionizing would be the most obvious answer, even if it's just not a thing in South Korea, BTS have been outliers for everything else in the industry and are famous for their soft power, why not champion such an innovation?
He could also have actually offered to talk about the issues directly with the tv stations, but right now BTS don't even deign to perform in music shows despite being the most famous domestic group in existence, so it's not like those people would have any good reason to listen to him. It would be lot of work and a long process but he could actually use his influence for good instead of just offering criticism.
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are you serious ? socialist leader ??
now he can't even speak his mind freely if he's not "bringing an actual change"
he was barely expressing his concern for fellow artists, but you had to twist everything and even accuse him of looking down on kpop.
His speaking his mind freely and expressing "concern' is more likely to do more harm than good. He's not actually supporting other idols by giving criticism without offering an alternative or actively helping things change, he's just inciting backlash from his very loud and very powerful fanbase.
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give his unique perspective
How did the lyrics go, "talk is cheap".
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It wasn't even an interview for a proper independent publication, it was for his company's online mouthpiece. This frankness serves no purpose but to stoke the fire of ARMY who are already more than ready to look down on other idols and would love nothing more than to see a pillar of the industry collapse.
After all, BTS don't need those exploitative music shows. Nevermind that their fans make sure no one else wins them for ages even if BTS aren't performing.
He talks like a social activist, but you're right he isn't one since that implies actually doing something. Other idols don't have the same privilege and immunity he does, it's hard enough they have to go though the wringer, you can't expect them to also risk being blacklisted.
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1. Socialist leader? No thank you! Why would the world need that is beyond me.
2. Way to twist a narrative. So unless somebody actually make a change then they can give no opinion or speak out about anything even though they have way more insight because they actually went through it. Have you ever heard of the snowball effect? Have you ever heard that Rome wasn't built in a day?
Imagine having such a crab mentality mindset. Can't related
Most people can only give their opinion and add their voices to a protest or conversation. A few people can actually make a difference. Suga is one of those people. Right now his opinion is nothing but empty words that are likely to backfire if it snowballs in the political climate of his country.
BTS are about to jet off to New York to parrot for the UN, but he can't say, "I'm going to meet with fellow idols and we're going to start talking about improving our condition". He's only pointing fingers out of spite, a leftover hangup from his previous situation as an idol in a smaller company.
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If he wants to be speak up for idol labor like a socialist leader he should actually use his position and start an union.
As it is he's just saying things because he'll face no consequences, but idols in smaller companies now risk losing even the tiresome music shows because if public opinion shuns them broadcasters would rather give up on the shows than make real changes in working hours/compensation, if there isn't any support or pressure from big companies.
Another instance of Suga taking his cues from ARMY and attacking the whole of kpop because BTS are "beyond kpop". It will be perfect for Hybe/SM/YG/JYP if they don't have to rely on music shows anymore and only their groups get to produce any relevant content.
This way they don't risk having a nugu group suddenly make it big, y'know like BTS did.
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Is this a good time to mention BTS' Fila and Samsung ad deals or am I going to be accused of whatabouttism
