Posts by WhimsyLand

Quote from Icaro_Ribeiro

Honestly imo they only suceed maneging izone

IOI was a mess

Wanna One has very good promotions, specially individually, but had way too much bad comebacks and a very convoluted scheduled. The problem was the contract, it was way too short to build proper hype between comebacks and let the group grown. Moreover they failed to cultivate their international popularity focusing only in Korea even if the show was pretty bit elsewhere

They did well with iZone. Neither Produce 48 nor iZone was nearly as close as Broduce and Wanna One, but they manage the group well. Their songs were well received, they released albums in Japan, overall the fandom grew even if the rigging scandals

X1 was rushed in a desperate attempt to avoid the rigging controversy, it was all meaningless and the group disbanded

With Kep1er it makes them failing to proper manage the group 3 out of 5 times, and only succeeding 1 our of 5

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For Wanna One, I was thinking more about variety shows. The boys were everywhere those 1.5 years. I remember CJ also got Zico, Nell, Dynamic Duo, and Heize to produce songs for their third mini which is HUGE. Ofc, all of that could've been due to Wanna One's own popularity, but I think they did average. It wasn't great but not terrible either. They gave them regular comebacks at least.

As for international hype, there's really nothing they could do on that front. They just didn't have hype internationally because favorites like Samuel didn't make it into the lineup and music wasn't good.

Imho, the biggest issue with their management was the music, lack of budget for comebacks, and schedules.

Quote from Baeggi

They did this photoshoot, I remember everyone thought it would be theit concept, Alice in wonderland lol But yes, Kep1er is like I.O.I, the first and experimental group. I.O.I was even worse, since we got the blandest music ever as debut even if the show popularity was insane in Korea, and the contract wasn't exclusive, so some the companies were greedy and debuted the girls in their own groups before I.O.I ended.

I remember being so psyched about their debut when this photoshoot came out

Quote from blossom9990

At this point I really poor Kep1er members. They didn't get anything during this period of their predebut era.

Anyway Congratulations to ZB1. Finally, bg started to make some wave in Korea.

My only theory is that W1 hates the Kep1er lineup and dgaf about them because their handling of them is really poor.

Wake One is essentially OTR, Stone Music, and a couple other CJ companies combined and they have successfully managed survival show groups before. Idk why they dropped the ball so much with Kep1er.

Quote from Lulu_Key

They even booked a venue for Onew bday fan meeting in December

Shawols put the fear of God in SM

LMAOOO, as they should

Quote from Baeggi

They gonna be huge. I don't know about digitals since korea isn't fond of bgs anymore, but high album sales are almost secured

As long as they get into the digital chart somehow I'll be happy lol

Quote from Daisy_Queen

Did they ever fix the venue issue?

Yup, SM moved it to Jamsil and extended the fanmeet to two days instead of just one

So, pre-orders for ZB1's 1st Look magazine opened yesterday and the numbers they've been pulling are kinda insane?

First of all, the cover looks amazing so that's a plus.

Secondly, they're already on Ktown4u's Top 20 all-time K-Content Chart (for non-album releases like photobooks or magazines) with 11k+ pre-orders on Day 1.

The magazine is currently rounding out Day 2 with 14k+ pre-orders.

For reference, the only other idols on the K-Contents chart are EXO members, NCT members, Blackpink, and BTS members.

They also surpassed 10,000 pre-orders on Qoo10 in Japan

Casually collecting magazine store all-kills

And all of this in less than 48 hours. Monster rookies incoming

Quote from Lulu_Key

Their last fast meeting was in 2018

it was 4xKSPO dome total of 60k and 2xTokyo dome total of 110k

haters need to be real

And their fandom has grown so much since then. Even soloists are able to fill up big venues, imagine the full group.

And haters were saying the reason SM held their fanmeet in KINTEX was because they weren't capable of selling out bigger venues

LEAVE THEM ALONE PLS their companies are too broke to pay for selfie lessons

I'm a sucker for floral aesthetics, so ZB1 for me, but Wanna One's was iconic (legendary Kang Daniel's harem)

Same as title

Finally!

Quote from Twicegraphy

so much content from my favs (in general) i cant also i cant wait for their debut

Ooh, it's such a great time to be a Vanner stan!

Quote from Pinky_Peachy

FORTY EIGHT?????????

Yeah apparently. HiBooks, which is a compilation Twitter account for Korean magazines tweeted that ZB1 will have 48 pages (24 sheets). Ofc, it isn't confirmed yet.

They look amazing! Them surrounded by roses

Also apparently the ZB1 spread in here is 48 pages. I might have to pre-order I fear.

ZB1 in their HYYH era?

Quote from rubyjanes

the Haobinists are quaking right now lol. But for real i'm excited

Apparently Haobin as a ship is more popular than the entirety of Boys Planet in China. W1 is trying to get that Chinese coin lol

Quote from BlackpinkHouse

Officially, only two members (Chowon and Kaeun) were rigged out of Izone. But i've heard rumors that it couldve been as much as FIVE members who were rigged out (those two Korean girls and three other Japanese girls). Izone couldve been a group with 6 Korean members and 6 Japanese members .

It dont matter to me. Izone was perfect the way it was, we saw what can happen when randos from the general public are allowed to do the job of creating a Kpop group, everyone ended up hating and eventually abandoning the group despite their kick ass music (Kepler). There is a reason why rigging by actual professionals is necessary to come up with a group that everyone will fall in love with (W1, X1, IOI, Izone).

Kick ass music? People lost interest in Kep1er because their music was inconsistent and poor quality tbh.

That and WakeOne's piss poor management of the girls.

I agree that the final lineup is very underwhelming though. The reactions to ZB1 seem a lot better with both Korean and international fans calling it the most cohesive survival show group in recent years so let's hope they fare better.

Quote from BlackpinkHouse

Yeah i read on Wiki that there was already a lawsuit that was filed a few weeks before the actual debut date . MNET went ahead with debut anyway, then there was an actual search warrant issued, then police stormed MNET and found incriminating evidence. Oct was when arrests were made.

And to think none of this would've even happened if Lee Jinhyuk had just debuted with X1. His impact.