Posts by Tommy_Plitten

    The same kpop fans spamming “Lisa” over and over again on twitter isn’t an accurate representation. Lisa is just twitter vibes lol that many mentions but her songs are N/A on Spotify and Apple Music zzz.


    Jennie did well overall ngl even though people were shitting on her performances.

    The topic only mentions about Lisa and nothing about comparison between members.

    These solo stans are just disgusting.

    After Coachella performance, Alter Ego re-enters several charts!


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    While every GG's latest comebacks struggle to enter HOT 100.

    While every GG's latest comebacks debut spotify global at most 1+ m


    Individual success does not guarantee group success if only 1 member of a group shine.

    Not in BP case.


    ROSE, Jennie, Lisa latest albums,

    each of them had several tracks inside HOT 100.

    Countless songs of them debut above 4m Spotify global chart easily (filtered stream)


    ROSE has one of the biggest tracks in Korea with APT, sitting at number 1 melon for a long time.

    Jennie peaks at number 2 melon with Like Jennie.

    Only AESPA and IVE manage to reach No.1 melon from their latest release.


    We all obviously know if BP release a track as a group now, they will easily achieve the following; hence, their biggest GG status has never left them.

    HOT 100 entry

    debut as high as 7-10 million filtered spotify streams

    at least top 5 on Korea's digital platforms.

    I think this hate is a little synonymous to the over the top love they receive , I’m not a Lisa hater , she was my bias for a very long time , but her solos didn’t engage me at all . Infact Jennie was the only one whose solo music I was enjoying , rose was good but I was not hooked at all . Now back to the current situation , Lisa has been so much overhyped for so many small things by the fandom that the other started attacking her , also blinks being one of the most toxic and Lillies being equal toxic , she is a great performer , I remember Lillie’s dragging Jennie to the ground after their tours because Lisa/ Rosie seemed to the only one putting efforts in the performance . Todays scenario is culmination of everything , the truth is Lisa is not a singer and she should pick songs of her range I hope she does or do rap which I think supports her style better . She lipsyncs clearly and people are tired of Lillie’s being so toxic . So the hate coming to Lisa is because of this . I hope you understand this

    All solo stans and other fandoms are equally toxic, not only Lisa's solo stans.

    Also not only Lisa does lipsync; every artist does; but only Lisa is dragged.

    Even when the time Lisa does not lipsync; haters still find other things to hate on her though.

    A person should not be hated just because of his/her nationality.

    It is sad to witness.

    She is a kind person and does not do anything bad to anyone to justify the hate.


    A lot of Korean American-born critics and influencers hate on her.

    K-netizens hate on her.

    Armys hate on her.

    Solo stans hate on her.


    She now only relies on her fans, the really sincere Blinks, good Koreans who are not xenophobic and general public who like her work.

    Fewer? Just counting Lisa and Jennie alone, it would be the same number of releases. Also, half of the NewJeans' songs were J-Pop and essentially only promoted in Japan.


    It's somehow only NewJeans that gets their Japanese promotions held to standards no other idol group in history is held to, and they still perform admirably.


    We won't talk about how aespa or IVE's Japanese albums did on Spotify or MelOn :meme-mmm-tea:

    In 2024, Lisa has 3 releases and the impact has not even fully reflected as she just released the first one like a few months ago and how can you count Jennie when the impact is now only 1 day? No Rose, No Jisoo release in 2024.


    New Jeans is far far far from Blackpink in global stage. 1.6 m Spotify global debut as a group vs 6 m Spotify global debut as one member, everyone can see but you!

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    This negated by the fact they have way more songs collecting streams. Additionally, BLACKPINK had a bigger streaming year in 2023 than they did in 2022, and even back then, NewJeans just BARELY missed being the top girl group and that was also because their discography is still small, especially back then.

    But Blackpink members' solo work (not counting Group work) has roughly the same or even higher streams in 2024 than New Jeans' work, with fewer discography, fewer new releases in 2023 and 2024 (not counting Jennie's latest release she just has). Comparing this would be more relevant, as Blackpink only has solo releases lately, no Group release for a very long time.


    And this is only members' work, you can imagine Blackpink's power when they will comeback as a group, don't you? Even a Blackpink member can pull 5-6 m in Spotify global chart debut while New Jeans as a whole can only do 1+ m.

    Come on Blinks, we should celebrate every member's success.

    I think Jennie and Lisa both have succeeded in their own ways.

    Jennie succeeds both in Korean market and international market.

    Lisa succeeds bigger in international market but does not succeed in Korea.


    On Spotify, Lisa's versions are not combined.

    For Jennie's, I am not sure how Spotify treats explicit and clean versions. But if they are combined, Jennie should have the advantage on streams count if filtered streams' limit per user is separate between clean and explicit versions. That should encourage and allow fans to stream more without getting filtered out, but this will not impact casual listeners at all though.