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Quote from stan12345

They might want Stray kids at the front of the US push now but that isn't going to bring fans over to their new gg, like Twice did in Japan with Nizi. Twice fans spread over to Itzy, Nizi and now NMIXX but based on what I've seen Twice fans didn't spread to Stray Kids at all really. It might have given them additional attention in Japan for example but fandom wise girl group to girl group is much more effective.

Media play does next to nothing for Twice as a group but I can imagine it does what it needs to for current and potential shareholders, especially to sell the viability and potential of their US girl group.

I notice that companies tend to favor boy groups more. Reading the company reports posted in Twitter, I don't even think jype expect a lot from Twice. Twice overperforms in the US but they are enticing the shareholders with SK's potential performance.

Media play brings in eyes to the group. Haters tend to give a group visibility. Since they are more rabid at posting things than the actual fans. I'm really optimistic that this recent mediaplay of success can get Twice a successful comeback. If only jype would let Twice actually promote in variety shows. Let the GP see their faces again.

Quote from stan12345

Twice don't need Melon but really, not

The way they were established puts limitations on them that other groups don't have. I just hope the choice to mainly focus on the US and put minimal emphasis on SK isn't built on establishing a brand there to launch the new US gg whilst they still can, but rather with a long term plan in place for the group.

Jype will position Stray Kids more in the US. It's obvious how happy they were with the group's achievement.

But the US pivot is good for Twice. It is another avenue to earn for the group. I think it's also for Twice PR and mediaplay. JYPE is tweeting about their achievements and that will create discussions. Positive or negative it will still mention Twice and hopefully haters and likers will listen to their comeback.

If Nayeon have a solo and they gave her a proper promotion and put her in varieties I think it will help Twice in Korea. I really like for one of them to go to I live alone. I feel like Twice pleasant personalities will fit the show.

yes, for brand deals purposes. It gives the image of them being popular with the GP and have a big fanbase(albums sales and concerts). A 900k ULs like BB w/o promos is the dream tbh.

Quote from alexS

Ok, since you clearly do not understand what you said was wrong, please let me explain it to you.

To tell somebody to whiten themselves is racist and I'm saying this as a white male in his 40s from Romania.

I do understand the dichotomy in culture, because in eastern Asia, to be whiter means you were protected from the sun by your servants. As in upper class.

And lower class was in the fields and would get a tan from being in the sun.

But...it's 2022.

You can't really tell somebody to whiten themselves.

P.S.

I am always aggressive or I am always lovable.

Depends on who I am replying to

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Saying it's racist is just stupid. Jlaw said in an interview before that she had to be thin to get roles when she was starting out.

Different entertainment industry have different beauty standard. If someone as beautiful as Jlaw have to starve herself to get roles then just imagine what other newbie actresses have to do to get roles. Since JYPE mismanage their solo careers, Tzuyu will have to start from scratch. And the pressure to conform will be stronger if she wants to stay working in the entertainment industry. That is why it's much better if she is still in Twice while she builds her solo career. It's much safer.

Quote from alexS

Tzuyu has suffered a lot because of China. I doubt she will want to.

Also whiten herself? Really?

In 2022?

Fuck off mate!

no need to be aggressive. The chinese actresses I've seen have white skin and very thin. If tzuyu have a different career other than being an idol the possibilities are endless for her but I think she'll be pressured to follow beauty trends to get gigs.

She can also be a Taiwanese actress or singer but I think it's more safer for her if she is still in Twice if she wants to establish a solo career for herself.

China can give Tzuyu popularity. She has to whiten herself though since China likes a certain type of beauty. Or start acting in Taiwan. But she can get better roles if she is still with Twice and avoid sponsorship rumors.

Quote from QueenMaknae27

Let's just hope it's not too late

Better late than never. At least now Twice girls got long contract endorsement and not just one time ig ads and magazine ads.

The solo deals this time comes more often compared to 2021. Whether they renew or not at least the company is trying to woo them.

Endorsement:

Mina - Metrocity, SK-II

Nayeon - Biotherm

Sana - WakeMake cosmetics

Tzuyu - Zooc

Momo - MET

*I don't know if Saida is still in apieu since sana is endorsing another cosmetic brand

Sponsorship/IG ad post/Photoshoot:

Nayeon - LV, Harper Bazaar(Chaumet)

Sana - Prada, Apieu

Dahyun - MarieClaire(Kolon Sport), Apieu

Jeongyeon - Ralph Lauren

Others:

Jihyo - OST

Dahyun - Photobook

Mina - Vogue Girl interview

Group CFs - Lemona, Pearly Gates, Lux

Rumor: Nayeon solo

I want them to promote more in variety or get a drama gig. A netflix one would be better.

metrocity and SK-II. I need this brands to give her billboards and magazine covers. Just imagine Mina in a japanese magazine

Quote from 7hr43q2o32

thanks anon

glad to finally see jyp allowing individual activities

2 years too late is better than never

I don't think it's too late. Sure the most popular girls (Sana, Nayeon & Tzuyu) lost their hype but jype can still get it back by giving them promo in variety shows. And the girls still get viral in social media so I am hoping this year jype will give them noise by hyping them up in articles.

Viral Videos:

Tiktok:

Mina & Jihyo: 44.7M views / 7.7M likes

Momo & Nayeon: 34.6M views / 5.2M likes

Twice: 28M views / 5.3M likes

The Feels relay dance: 25.4M views / 3.2M likes

Twice valentines: 24M views / 3.7M likes

Mina: 18.9M views / 3M likes

Youtube Short:

Tzuyu archery: 99M views

Mina dancing mistake: 25M views / 979k likes

Sana & Nayeon: 24M views / 303k likes

Nayeon: 16M views / 1M likes

Mina & Nayeon The Feels: 16M views

I did not include JY because she is in hiatus. But she did a photoshoot and a vlog sponsored by Ralph Lauren.

Now that I wrote all their solo endeavors, it still seem so little. Hopefully this year there would be more cfs and photoshoot. I am hoping that JYPE would use their huge industry connection to put the girls in popular variety shows. Reintroduce them once more to the public. Their remaining kfans should hype them more in fan forum sites and make their cfs or photoshoot viral so that the girls will get more brand deals.

NAYEON

Cfs: Biotherm

Photoshoot:

• W Korea, Elle Korea (LV)

• Elle Korea (chaumet fashion film)

• Elle Korea (biotherm ad)

• Y magazine with Jihyo

SANA

Cfs: Apieu with Dahyun

Photoshoot:

• star1 with Dahyun (Apieu)

• Cosmopolitan (Prada)

Others:

• Sana collab with Kobukuro

• Photobook

• Attended Prada fashion show

MOMO

Cfs: Met tathione

Photoshoot: W Korea (Onitzuka Tiger)

Others:

• Performance Project

• Appeared in yukaDD MV

JIHYO

Cfs: The Body Shop Campaign , Under Armour running muse

Photoshoot:

• Cosmopolitan (Under Armour)

• Y Magazine with Nayeon

Others:

• Performance Project

• On & Off guest appearance

• Photomatic

• Photobook

MINA

Photoshoot:

• Harper Bazaar

• Allure

Others:

• Melody Project

• Photobook

DAHYUN

Cfs: Apieu with Sana

Photoshoot: star1 with Sana

Others: Attended Moncler Genius - Gentle Monster with Tzuyu

CHAEYONG

Photoshoot : OhBoy Magazine

Others:

• Melody Project

• Youtube video guest

TZUYU

Cfs: ZOOC muse

Photoshoot: LOfficiel Singapore and Malaysia

Others:

• Attended Moncler Genius - Gentle Monster with Dahyun

• Crocs collab

• Melody Project

• Photobook

Quote from stan12345

As I said, compare the idols with the biggest luxury brands against Twice. It's what - BP members, Irene, Suzy etc. Idols that will routinely make things trend or go viral. Twice members haven't had that power for a long time as they are not who the general public think of when they think fashion. Even Hwasa is someone that make things trend or go viral more than any Twice member despite Twice as a group being much more popular than Mamamoo.

Twice are not known for their fashion and the fandom itself has always been more male dominated than other girl groups that dominate the fashion space. If you're a high end luxury brand what do Twice members bring to the table? Their individual public recognition isn't bigger than any of the other top idols that become ambassadors so they're not any better with the public. The fandom itself is more male dominated than others so are hardly going to be influencing fashion trends there.

Can Twice get high end brand deals? Yes. Is the reason now that they're open for solo deals they're still not getting them because JYPE is refusing them? No. Do you think LV ring up about Nayeon, but JYPE are like nah, we'll prefer to go with Biotherm? If you go by the logic they refuse on purpose to keep the numbers dependent, do you not think Nayeon finds that out and will just be like, why on earth would I re-sign here?

Sana used to trend and go viral when they were at their peak. JYPE just wasted all her hype and box her to the group. Now she have to start again to get better public recognition as an individual.

I think JYPE is marketing Mina as the 'expensive/rich' idol. Her fandom seem to talk about her and promoting her even without her doing anything. I think if her name gets more traction or hype, she can land a luxury endorsement.

Nayeon as the Face of Twice can surely land a high end luxury brand if Twice can chart back to #1. She does not need to build her individual brand since she is so tied up to Twice's branding. If Twice succeeds in South Korea, she gets more brand deals.

Quote from vzal

Like I said, it's rigged. Nobody knows how they calculate it. You really think Purple Kiss or Cherry Bullet members are more known than TWICE members?

no but I think their fanbase & company hype them more. They are new and probably their fans in social media want attention for them. All I care is for Mina to rank in top 5 for like 3 months to add more hype to her name. And she can only do that with the help of her company. A little bit of media play and maybe another magazine pictorial.

Look at the idols that got to the top 3 in brand reputation. Seolhyun when she was ruling at the top got 15 cfs. Irene also at one point a cf queen when she was a constant #1. Hwasa is an IT girl with Jennie. There was a year where the both of them is the #1 & 2 of brand reputation. If Mina can just get that much social media noise, it will be good for her career.

Quote from vzal

She has always been popular plus BR has to be the most rigged and irrelevant ranking ever so nah, JYPE definitely doesn’t need to mediaplay for that.

yes but the top 3 in BR seems to be the trendiest idol at the moment. I want jype to mediaplay about her prettiness or something.

......

whenever she gets solo work it seems to me that she ranks high in the monthly brand rep.

I need jype to mediaplay a little bit. Or give her another magazine pictorial so that she could rank higher next month.

popularity base on fancam views:

alcohol free fancam:

1. MPD M2 Nayeon - 2.3M views

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3. MPD M2 Jeongyeon - 1.4M views

4. MPD M2 Mina - 1.3M views

5. Studio Choom Jihyo - 1.3M views

6. Inkigayo Sana - 1.2M views

7. Inkigayo Jeongyeon - 1.2M views

8. Inkigayo Tzuyu - 1.2M views

9. MPD M2 Sana - 1.1M views

10. MPD M2 Momo - 1M views

11. Music Core Sana - 1M views

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1. MPD M2 Momo - 3.4M views

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3. Studio Choom Mina - 2.9M views

4. Studio Choom Sana - 2.7M views

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6. Studio Choom Dahyun - 1.7M views

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5. MPD M2 Mina - 1.7M views

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12. Music Bank Tzuyu - 1.2M views

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