that's why SM is so weird to only giving them a freedom now...
imagine what contents they already have now if this is had been allowed for a years ago
SM always thinks of girl groups as secondary. Or they didn't allow it because aespa had rookie years. As you know, idols sometimes said some words and the slightest word what they say on vlive can be use them againts negatively. Now is definitely the right time for Aespa. I think the focus of hate has shifted to other top groups.
Jyp is doing this so that people can be talk. Good tactic so that it will always keep the group on the agenda. Even though netizens was upset about Jinni departure, It seems that netizens haven't spoken much and seem to have accepted the situation. 
It would be the best answer to Jyp if Jinni redebut in another group and had a more successful
Sounds very nice 
Their Japanese very good
Display MoreI think the title of this OP is BS, but yeah, Cheshire flopped digitally on all fronts.
I don't agree with most of the takes in this thread. Sneakers was totally an ITZY song, and it was much like Dalla Dalla and ICY. Cheshire COULD have been an ITZY song if the chorus was stronger and choreo more eye catching. They lost international attention because the attention of international fans was taken by IVE, New Jeans, LSFM, Aespa (to a lesser degree) and IDLE. Plus, i-fans thought Sneakers was childish (same thing was said about Dalla Dalla mind you).
Like I said in the last thread that discussed this, JYPE tries too hard to appeal to both the West and Korea/and does not know how to at the same time, and going back and forth killed their momentum on both sides. They also refuse to do individual promotions, and just look at New Jeans, IVE, and LSFM, all of them are snatching up the big name brand deals, INDIVIDUALLY. I think every member of New Jeans has a luxury brand deal. That's how you build individual brand power that ultimately helps the group (we learned this from BP and Twice -oof I hate to say it- and are now seeing it play out with ITZY too).
ITZY can come back. Red Velvet is a great example of a GG that has gone through valleys of flopping (don't think they ever flopped as hard a Cheshire though lmao) and coming back stronger. ITZY can do it too. All it takes is a good song and deciding what direction they want to take, which I don't know if JYPE knows what either of those are anymore lmao. Going from MITM to Loco to Sneakers to Cheshire is wild af. All (except Cheshire) are good songs imo, but released in the wrong order at the wrong time. Stop trying to release Korean GP songs and then Western focused songs, and release GOOD music with ITZY's overall identity in mind. I thought ITZY's long ass hiatus before Sneakers was them spending time reconfiguring their approach (then Sneakers did well in Korea so I was hopeful), but then they dropped Cheshire and I was back confused again.
Maybe it is time for JYPE to demolish their whole, different groups/different teams idea. Not sure if it's working anymore. NMIXX and ITZY both releasing Alice in Wonderland themed comebacks one after the other with ZERO correlation was damning. Then again, JYPE did say they care more about album sales than digitals (and ITZY's growing in that aspect), so maybe they don't gaf as long as they get their money lol.
Either way, flop or not, I'm along for this ride LMAO.
I think the Alice and Wonderland concept only naturally suits the Red Velvet. Example: Rookie, Zimzalabim. That's why I think Jyp should find a concept that fits better with their girl group. I thought they were going to doing like badass concept in Mafia style. Loco's concept was nice too. But this year's concepts were not creative at all and confused me. The Sneaker concept didn't fit with the song. Sorry about Chesire, but it didn't reflect the a little bit creepy vibe of the Alice and Wonderland concept. So instead of giving Red Velvet concept, Jyp should give Itzy a badass and mature or sexy concept.
It's a good ass song. Deserved
It's one of my favorite bsides. The concert version was excellent. In the music show, Taemin's aura and stage charisma were too much for the music show. The choreography and stage of the concert was something unforgettable. 
She looks very cute 
But SM bad company and never thinks about the safety of their idols. 
This situation made me angry. 
They still couldn't come to their senses. 
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Display Morewdym nasty?
he sent this to be comforting
look how clean and bright it is
My mom loves my feet said potatoes feet, sometimes I don't understand what she's talking about. 
I don't think feet are cute at all. Even if Taemin show his feet, all I see is just feet. 
Blue Flame is title track level song so definitely Blue Flame. 
But i also liked impurities 
I love SHINee so much 
Jyp 
If Jinni had done something big, they would have revealed it. Or the event leaked already. I think Jyp's fault is more serious in this case. They immediately removed Jinni to cover up their own mistakes i think. Jinni discovered something about Jyp and when she found out about it, they kicked her out of the group. If you think that companies are innocent, you are very wrong. 
It's even more pathetic if they sent it because of the dating ban. I wish Jinni and Nmixx success in their careers. 
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