so the soojin accusation is all she said she did

  • But if they come out and reveal themselves, even if its true, they can get sued for defamation since its still criminalised in Korea.


    Its why even when that stylist revealed stuff about Irene she never fully said it, just left loads of clues to let people realise who it was just in case SM decided to sue her.

  • Seems like that actress is intentionally being silent and vague just to make rumors and random accusations against soojin grow up even more so that she would continue to receive more and more hate. Really pathetic, if their is really something between that actress and soojin then that actress should clearly come forward and just openly say what it is instead of just being a vague dramatic bitch.

  • But if they come out and reveal themselves, even if its true, they can get sued for defamation since its still criminalised in Korea.


    Its why even when that stylist revealed stuff about Irene she never fully said it, just left loads of clues to let people realise who it was just in case SM decided to sue her.

    yet but there is no concrete evidence and in soojin's letter , she denied everything so idk who to believe

  • But if they come out and reveal themselves, even if its true, they can get sued for defamation since its still criminalised in Korea.


    Its why even when that stylist revealed stuff about Irene she never fully said it, just left loads of clues to let people realise who it was just in case SM decided to sue her.

    If accusations are true then you can't be sued for defamation, don't post your senseless logic.

  • If accusations are true then you can't be sued for defamation, don't post your senseless logic.

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    From the looks of it even facts can net you 2 years

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  • You stay neutral until we get more parts of the story. None of us were there so we can't for sure say that either story is true or not. The accuser has said they will reveal more so I'm waiting to see if what they say contradicts Soojin's statement.

    And if it does? So what? There's obviously already contradictions given Soojin denied 90% of the accusations. That's still a she said/she said.

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  • yet but there is no concrete evidence and in soojin's letter , she denied everything so idk who to believe

    Just wait with an open mind. Eventually either other people who went to school with her will come out and defend her, (or confirm) or cube will mention something about criminal sanctions. But with the current climate from the twins situation, answers are gonna come out sooner than later.

  • No it can't, defamation only occurs when you accuse someone of doing some crime which they didn't do.

    Individuals who defame others by “publicly alleging facts” face up to three years’ imprisonment.



    Not everywhere is as nice legally as you'd think

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  • That article clearly says its about “false factual statements”

    The first line goes 'ARTICLE 19 calls on the Republic of Korea to prioritise the repeal of criminal defamation provisions, including those that criminalise the dissemination of true statements'

    and literally the next line after the one you quoted goes ' However, truthful statements can also lead to criminal liability. Individuals who defame others by “publicly alleging facts” face up to three years’ imprisonment. In these cases, the defence of truth is only available to defendants who can demonstrate that their communications were made “solely for the public interest.”'

  • The first line goes 'ARTICLE 19 calls on the Republic of Korea to prioritise the repeal of criminal defamation provisions, including those that criminalise the dissemination of true statements'

    and literally the next line after the one you quoted goes ' However, truthful statements can also lead to criminal liability. Individuals who defame others by “publicly alleging facts” face up to three years’ imprisonment. In these cases, the defence of truth is only available to defendants who can demonstrate that their communications were made “solely for the public interest.”'


    Individuals who defame others by “publicly alleging facts” face up to three years’ imprisonment.



    Not everywhere is as nice legally as you'd think

    Even then that actress can just come forward and publicly tell everyone what actually happened without putting any accusations

  • Don't forget as well (as we learned from the award shows and the amount of idols out in the cold vs actors in dressing rooms) actors are considered socially above being an idol. So arguably she is risking her career by getting herself involved in this mess. But likely she couldn't escape it anyways since she was known to have gone to the same school as soojin

  • Even then that actress can just come forward and publicly tell everyone what actually happened without putting any accusations

    but how easy is it to use that defence? To say, its in the public interest to know so and so is a bully....well why? they are a singers, not a politicians or newscasters who's image and impartiality would be called into question. Not saying she couldn't but to do so would mean she would have to prove that she wasn't doing it for revenge of any sort and its kinda hard to believe. Theres no real reason why (if the accusations are true) this would be in the publics best interest to know.


    Even the situation with trump and that justice in America, though thier character was called into question as a key indicator if they were fit for office, yet they still had many people defending them using the excuse of them wanting revenge or it being a democratic lie to bring trouble. How much harder do you think it would be on an actress going up against and idol?

  • but how easy is it to use that defence. To say, its in the public interest to know so and so is a bully....well why? they are a singers, not a politician or newscasters who's image and impartiality would be called into question. Not saying she couldn't but to do so would mean she would have to prove that she wasn't doing it for revenge of any sort and its kinda hard to believe.


    Even the situation with trump and that justice in America, though thier character was called into question as a key indicator if they were fit for office, yet they still had many people defending them using the excuse of them wanting revenge or it being a democratic lie to bring trouble. How much harder do you think it would be on an actress going up against and idol?

    Irene's stylist publicly announced what happened between her and irene and she is not in jail on some defemation charges.



    Its fucking obvious what that actress is trying to do, she is using these rumors to harass soojin as much as possible.

  • Irene's stylist publicly announced what happened between her and irene and she is not in jail on some defemation charges.



    Its fucking obvious what that actress is trying to do, she is using these rumors to harass soojin as much as possible.

    She's not in jail because she had the proof of what happened and Irene apologized

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  • I feel that if you wanna accuse someone, grab some balls and say it.


    Don't hide behind an anonymous name or write shady half-ass stories. You openly tried to tarnish someone else name (whether real or fake) you should be putting yourself in front to fight for what you think is right, not hide behind a phone/computer screen


    This is very easy to do, isn't it? Accusing a celebrity full of fans ready to defend at all costs . The fans are already attacking when it is anonymous imagine if the person's name was exposed. Remember a celebrity accused of bullying? The fans found the address of the "victim" and started to stalk and send death threats


    I understand why victims prefer to remain anonymous


    Also I'm not saying that Soojin is guilty

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  • Irene's stylist publicly announced what happened between her and irene and she is not in jail on some defemation charges.



    Its fucking obvious what that actress is trying to do, she is using these rumors to harass soojin as much as possible.

    again, because SM decided not to pursue it and Irene admitted it. But don't forget, we still have no idea if the whole situation with chanyeols girlfriend is even true yet SM is pursuing legal action and there are loads of situations like that.


    I'm not saying its true, just that don't demonise this actress before anything has come out. Because realistically, what does she have to gain from this?


    There are many situations in the industry where something like this happens and the accuser retracts after getting court documents sent to them and we never find out if its true or not because by that point it doesn't matter anymore that person is scared and doesn't want to ruin thier lives.


    Even that actor that was accused a few days ago, the amount of stories that came out about threats of legal action or just threats to people who went to school with him to keep their mouth shut.

  • If that actress is true then she should come forward and openly declare what is the issue between her and soojin.


    If she does not and continues with her vague dramatic bullshit just to make random rumors and accusations grow even more then its obvious that she is just being a pathetic jealous clout chaser bitch

  • Or the actress should just talk Soojin face to face if the korean law is that fucked up

    but why should a bullying victim be force to confront her bully? and thats even if the actress was bullied by soojin. Don't forget her initial post just mentioned knowing what soojin did. She was just acting as a witness for the ACTUAL victims who came forward.

  • Kpop stans should stop harassing/defaming victims, especially when we know no amount of proof will change your minds. No one has iron clad “proof”, not even Soojin. It is a s/he said, s/he said situation. You can believe what you want, just stop defaming and harassing the victims and bullies.

  • If that actress is true then she should come forward and openly declare what is the issue between her and soojin.


    If she does not and continues with her vague dramatic bullshit just to make random rumors and accusations grow even more then its obvious that she is just being a pathetic jealous clout chaser bitch

    a clout chaser whos richer, more famous with a longer career than soojin?

  • This is very easy to do, isn't it? Accusing a celebrity full of fans ready to defend at all costs . The fans are already attacking when it is anonymous imagine if the person's name was exposed. Remember a celebrity accused of bullying? The fans found the address of the "victim" and started to stalk and send death threats


    I understand why victims prefer to remain anonymous


    Also I'm not saying that Soojin is guilty

    I bet you will love it when anonymous people starts posting rumors about you uh?


    Imagine waking up one morning and your name is all over the news because CATL0V3RXXD1997 posted on their SNS outing you as a bully I'm sure you are perfectly ok with that

  • a clout chaser whos richer, more famous with a longer career than soojin?

    More richer and famous with her 100k ista follower?


    Its obvious this bitch got butthurt when she saw soojin being the muse of Peripera while nobody was giving a fuck about her Flopping acting career.


    And now she is just using these baseless rumors surrounding soojin for sucking clout with her vague lines and billie elish songs, pathetic bitch

  • but why should a bullying victim be force to confront her bully? and thats even if the actress was bullied by soojin. Don't forget her initial post just mentioned knowing what soojin did. She was just acting as a witness for the ACTUAL victims who came forward.

    why not? communication is key. lots of problems in this world would disappear if only people talk and listen each other instead of talking about each other behind the internet.

  • So that means that actress has no proof, then why tf is soojin getting so much hate when their is no proof of her being a bully?

    Honestly i can't tell you the exact answer, just the possibilities. 3 people spoke against her, which gives the illusion of credibility. 2 of them proved that they are the same age and from the same school as her. One of them is an actress, she actually also have a public career so if it turns out to be false she has a lot to lose too. On top of that, she also spoke about being bullied in the past without mentioning anyone which also contributes to her credibility. And soojin admitted to her image so even if that shouldnt be proof enough that she did it, it adds to the image knetz are painting of her. I'm still neutral about it because just looking like an iljin isn't proof that you were one but the odds are against her.

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  • Kpop stans should stop harassing/defaming victims, especially when we know no amount of proof will change your minds. No one has iron clad “proof”, not even Soojin. It is a s/he said, s/he said situation. You can believe what you want, just stop defaming and harassing the victims and bullies.

    Both didn't show any proof and Soojin denied she is a bully while the accuser hasn't responded her denying yet. Why do you conclude that she's a bully? The scandal is still developing and hasn't finished.

  • More richer and famous with her 100k ista follower?


    Its obvious this bitch got butthurt when she saw soojin being the muse of Peripera while nobody was giving a fuck about her Flopping acting career.


    And she is just using these rumors for sucking clout with her vague lines and billie elish songs, pathetic bitch

    IN KOREA!!!

    Actors are top dogs because Korea loves dramas and she has been in quite a few famous ones too. Her net worth is around 5million USD. Shes been famous since she was a child actress, its not comparable.

  • More richer and famous with her 100k ista follower?


    Its obvious this bitch got butthurt when she saw soojin being the muse of Peripera while nobody was giving a fuck about her Flopping acting career.


    And now she is just using these baseless rumors surrounding soojin for sucking clout with her vague lines and billie elish songs, pathetic bitch

    Woah you should seriously chill.

    Calling someone a bitch over something that has not been cleared properly, something that we don't even know, is not right.

  • Honestly i can't tell you the exact answer, just the possibilities. 3 people spoke against her, which gives the illusion of credibility. 2 of them proved that they are the same age and from the same school as her. One of them is an actress, she actually also have a public career so if it turns out to be false she has a lot to lose too. On top of that, she also spoke about being bullied in the past without mentioning anyone which also contributes to her credibility. And soojin admitted to her image so even if that shouldnt be proof enough that she did it, it adds to the image knetz are painting of her. I'm still neutral about it because just looking like an iljin isn't proof that you were one but the odds are against her.

    Soojin has clearly denied all the bullying rumors and unless that accuser brings up some actual proof or evidence their accusations are nothing more than bullshit.



    Soojin just admited that she tried few cigarettes when she was in middle school but left smoking long ago, every other rumor is false

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