The photoshoot that almost got Min Hee Jin canceled for good in Korea, a case of male gaze applied to boygroup

  • Since we are discussing over sexualization in kpop and male gaze, Id like to present a case of female gaze done by female director.


    Edit: I am corrected by compelling arguments from other users that this is still male gaze.


    This photoshoot was extremely controversial at the time and almost got her canceled for good.


    While SHINee members were not minors, they were very young. So whats your opinion on this? Controversial or overreaction?


    Shawols DO think SM was/is fucking out of their mind for approving this


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  • I saw reddit shawols discussing it, I wanna know what shawols here think?

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  • I think some shoots are controversial, like the minho pic with the bottle and the bed shoots. Reminds of that Rotta guy. I can see where the outrage comes from when you look at the whole thing, at the same time there's pics like the cover that I don't see nothing wrong.

  • The fact that onew is the oldest member but got the least scandalised photo in the group.. :sweatr:

    Anyway, more than anything, i want to cancel the hairstylist for forcing those atrocious haircuts in minho and onew and taemin bc good GOD what did they do to deserve this :cryingr:

  • It's very much a hard pivot and it feels like tipping them too far into the "we used to be boys, but now we're men" but while also making them look like boys. :huuh:

  • are we sure is a female gaze?

    yes

    The director was Min Hee Jin


    She also bragged about she surprised Taemin with a shirtless photoshoot for danger despite telling him otherwise


    [theqoo] TAEMIN'S CONCEPT PICTURES FROM MIN HEEJIN
    T/N: Full title of the post is "Min Heejin who was scared that if she told him in advance that his body would be exposed, he would start bui...
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  • woah didnt see these before

    the female gaze couldnt do better?? look at that hair

    :eyes:

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  • The fact that onew is the oldest member but got the least scandalised photo in the group.. :sweatr:

    Onew doesnt even wear short sleeves alot on his own time


    Those pics must have made him feel naked

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  • ohhh but the photoshoot was a bit ambiguous to me like it could targeted for both men and women that's what I meant.

    well I describe as female gaze bc the person who planned them was a woman and SHINee's target audience is mostly women

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  • this made me uncomfortable :sweatr:


    the hair is tragic that's all i'll say

    hey

    you have no idea how much we fought over green hair boy with sherlock tv series nerd boys over tumblr

    Those are remnant of war

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  • :nct36:


    also :pepeshock: at this comment:

    4. Imagine how shocked Taemin was when they suddenly told him to strip?ㅠㅠㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Look at his betrayed eexpression.. but it suits him like a glove ㅠㅠ

    yeah

    Idk why did she admit to that with her whole chest

    also those comments


    imagine if Taemin was a female idol......

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  • True, it's not necessarily the female gaze just because the photographer was a woman. It depends more on the target audience.

    Im pretty sure target audience of SHINee in early days were women.....older women at that......

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  • Jpop really is so much more fun. Cuz even the slightest hint of fanservice, hell even if it’s no attempt at fanservice that can be spun as such, and Kpop fans go nuts lol

  • is this what she thinks older women like? I'm an older woman. I don't like this. Was this popular?

    people considered it the male version of lolita concept

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  • Jpop really is so much more fun. Cuz even the slightest hint of fanservice, hell even if it’s no attempt at fanservice that can be spun as such, and Kpop fans go nuts lol

    the same jpop that allow 14 year old akb idols to pose in bikinis for photobooks and magazine that are directed to their male fan base


    That sure sound fun

  • What do you mean? Kpop does fan service tho. Or is the type of fan service different?

    Oh on the Jpop side, underage sakura had to sit on the lap of 50 year old man


    some people define that as fun I guess

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  • Doesnt look like female gaze, imo it still is male gaze bc men are predatory towards other men too. Reminds me of the movie The Most Beautiful Boy in the World

    Director is woman, audience are women so I have hard time seeing how is it not female gaze?

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  • i mean i think the backlash is kinda deserved, these pics actually make me really uncomfortable i feel like i just saw something illegal :huuh:

    female gaze & the oversexualization/objectification of boys, young men, & men in general definitely needs to be addressed alot more

    my teenage mind and heart was so confused when these came out

    as an adult I can have much more cool and calm outlook toward them and see that I feel uncomfortable

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  • This was my least likeable of all the concept pics they've done tbh, they made me uncomfortable (although I generally don't like a lot of skin anyway) onew, key and jonghyun were bearable, but minho and taemins were not for me, their ages played as factor in that as well despite me being the same age as onew, I was still seeing taemin as a baby (it took me till criminal to see him as grown man, so you can imagine how weird it was seeing his concept pics lol)

    I remember seeing them when they were released and I couldn't figure out who they're target audience was, as it definitely was not me lol

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  • This was my least likeable of all the concept pics they've done tbh, they made me uncomfortable (although I generally don't like a lot of skin anyway) onew, key and jonghyun were bearable, but minho and taemins were not for me, they're ages played a factor in that as well despite me being the same age as onew, I was still seeing taemin as a baby (it took me till criminal to see him as grown man, so you can imagine how weird it was seeing his concept pics lol)

    I remember seeing them when they were released and I couldn't figure out who they're target audience was, as it definitely not me lol

    I remember shawols photoshoping blankets on them :clown:

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  • But are older women info lolita-ish concepts? I feel like that's more typically a male thing, whether their into guys or girls. Maybe it's just the crowd I hang out with that isn't info that? Most of my friends prefer older, bigger, stronger than them types.

    In manga the concept is called shotacon and it can be directed toward women too

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  • Director is woman, audience are women so I have hard time seeing how is it not female gaze?

    i think you’d be surprised how much of an audience that young boys have with certain old men. These pedophiles’d be lusting after these young kids all the same, and the distinction of gender preference blurs and becomes less severe. Whereas the proportion of old women that actually want to consume over-sexualised content of young girls is peanut-sized in comparison, almost non-existent really. So basically: young boys could be targeted by both old men and women, while young girls are usually predominantly preyed on by men only. Which is why the term “male gaze” holds a wider encompass of the magnitude of the situation, while “female gaze” doesn’t bear the same comparable heft imo

  • But are older women info lolita-ish concepts? I feel like that's more typically a male thing, whether their into guys or girls. Maybe it's just the crowd I hang out with that isn't info that? Most of my friends prefer older, bigger, stronger than them types.

    yeah it is they are making them look like that a lot younger than already are and it has very predatory vibes but I think it was more targeted to older men than women based on those pics.

  • wait wasn't Taemin like eighteen when Sherlock released right

    //since I think this is sherlock era right correct me if I'm wrong

    yes

    as I said not minors but still very young

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