Or do you feel it's fine if they lack at debut and give them time to grow into the position? Would they still be your fave if they weren't that good yet?
Do you expect rookies to be good singers or rappers when they debut?
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yes. When you debut you should be ready
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i would really hope they wouldn't be noticeably bad (after all the training) and rather average or better instead, but there's always the chance for improvement. but i mean yes for the most part.
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singers!
multiple survival shows already have shown that someone who can sing could do slower paced melodic rap very well even in 'first time in life' situation
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Absolutely. That’s why they spend years as trainees, to hone their talents. If a company is presenting a product for public consumption (and I hate to make the comparison but in a way, that’s what they are), they got to be at the top of their game right out the gate. In a fickle industry like kpop, it can make or break a group if the talent is deemed mediocre.
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Yes, absolutely. Why have they debuted, otherwise?
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Yes, dance is focused on a bit too much like why can companies finding incredible dance coaches but none for vocal or rap?
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Yes?
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singers!
multiple survival shows already have shown that someone who can sing could do slower paced melodic rap very well even in 'first time in life' situation
Yep. Exo as rookies were amazing singers too. Being new doesn't mean you can't have impressive talents
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Absolutely. That’s why they spend years as trainees, to hone their talents. If a company is presenting a product for public consumption (and I hate to make the comparison but in a way, that’s what they are), they got to be at the top of their game right out the gate. In a fickle industry like kpop, it can make or break a group if the talent is deemed mediocre.
I've seen a surprising amount of fans defending medicore skills by telling people that they shouldn't be harsh cuz the idols just debuted and they should be allowed to grow into good singers...
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Yes, absolutely. Why have they debuted, otherwise?
You'd be surprised. I've heard the "they're just new" argument quite a bit.
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Yes, I like Twice.
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Yes, dance is focused on a bit too much like why can companies finding incredible dance coaches but none for vocal or rap?
I don't get this either. I get that dance and performances are important skills but shouldn't vocals/rap be the primary skill. They don't even seem to select for that talent as much anymore...
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Yes, I like Twice.
Were they good right out of the gate?
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there's the expectation that they have been training for however long and that when they are debuting it's because the group is officially ready. So, they should be great dancers, singers, rappers. I don't mean like the best out there, but I would expect some sort of solid sound. However, there is ALWAYS room to grow and improve. I personally wouldn't be too critical, it could be nerves, it could be anything. I always wait for the next comeback etc to see if they improve or what the group may bring.
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They're supposed to be singers... so yes
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Were they good right out of the gate?
I think so. Here's some performances from their debut showcase:
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Yes.
I also recognize that kpop companies have very narrow views for what their groups should sound like and it can sometimes take time for them to figure out what to do with a person's voice.
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Yes. Whats the point of training then. At least, they should be able to sing their own song.
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