Ngl Hybe announcing all these groups makes me anxious about BTS's future

    Obviously I'm not saying that BTS is going to be dropped or anything, they are literally a walking goldmine but they will rather be used to promote hybe ventures. As a fan I still see so much potential in them, I remember how everyone thought that bwl was their peak but then they came out with dyanmite and literally the fandom doubled.

    I mean the idea that the members might be satisfied with their level of success and deciding to take is slow from here isn't that far fetched of a idea as well because they have nothing left to prove anymore but this is one of the many assumptions.

    I remember reading something like "Hybe is trying to divide armys and push them towards other groups" and thinking "this is some bullshit" but the more you think about it the more it makes sense like how bts's is enlistment is uncertain and how their new bg is basically following the bts's blueprint. Also we can't forget aboyt hybe's new struggle of trying to prove to the investors that they don't depend on bts.

    I really hope I'm proved wrong and Bighit puts a heck lot of effort into their new stuff and don't half ass things like the did with BE. I hope they remember that no mater how much they try to ReVoLuTIonIZe CoNtEnT great music is what brings in the most fans.

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    Blame stupid fans for buying into BH family agenda and token stanning their other group

    I used to feel the time but idc anymore. They're adults and they resigned with this company willingly.

    hybe has been trying to push armys to their new groups for a while (like any other big company), but seeing how little it helps their other groups/little it affects bts' doubling fandom, they know it's not working.

    they can half asses bts' next cb & completely rely on army, but it won't change the fact that hybe has pretty much nothing going for them except for bts & bts' brand.


    if they keep acting this way, i'm pretty sure stockholders will speak up soon. these people don't care for hybe's/bang's pretty words if it doesn't give them results.

    I think Be's promotion was "half assed" because it was a mid-pandemic project that was never going to be toured or promoted the same was as a normal album. Whenever their new album cycle gears up, I think they're going to go all out bc they've been hinting at a world tour.


    and no offense to fans of those groups....but if there's one thing that's obvious from the debuts of txt and enhypen, it's that Hybe has no idea how to recreate BTS.


    they can send their new boys to America, make them busk on the streets, teach them how to rap, but at the end of the day, BTS' special chemistry isn't going to magically transfer to their juniors. There are too many Armys who will drop kpop the moment BTS stop being active for the SM strategy to work.

    Well congrats to hybe. They did succeed into dividing armys into moas or engenes.

    Despite BTS being the biggest group in the world nothing will make armys feel secure. HYBE cannot make anyone stan a group, if armys stan a group its 100% their choice. What is dividing armys is bts stans being nasty af to multis. So many armys have become success stans these days its sad to see.

    Hybe was too greedy and shot themselves in the foot. Armys were really supportive of TXT and they would support all the groups with no complaints but Hybe decided to start giving BTS half assed everything and overpriced albums and merch and that put a lot of people off.

    Well, bts are gonna enlist soon and hybe needs army to stay in the company.

    Txt and enhypen still don't have the whole of army attention so hybe is gonna debut more groups hoping that the biggest part of armys are gonna stay in the company...

    Ngl, I don't envy the fans of the boygroups... living with the fear of their groups getting dropped if they don't bring in as much money as the agency wants them to.

    If you just listened to their music, and enjoyed their content, without trying to manage them you'd be much happier. I will never understand why kpop fans can't just accept things and focus on what they can control. Making u anxious? Be anxious that you're worrying about things that you will never be able to affect.

    the victimization is hilarious

    U should envy bg with big fandom since they dont need the most fickle-minded GP to support them so they can score CFs or hosting gig. U do know that streaming itself is not profitable right? If u sell more than 500k units , it’s way more profitable than charting number in Melon. How much more if u sell a million albums? In Japan alone , Enhypen earned 12million dollars in 2021 that made top 2 most profitable grp among 4th gen, top 1 is a Japanese grp. Their total earnings across rhe globe is probably 5-10 times bigger.Also, Enhypen does not rely too much on Armys, they built their own fandom & it’s more than enough. They are a profitable 15 month old grp. All their achievements are way better if u compare what other grps achieved in their 15 month career.


    Hybe wont go down if BTS enlist. They still have SVT, Enhypen and TxT that sell well if u compared it to other labels. The new GG will probably focus in domestic charting & probably even sell well. Some BTS members may also have individual gigs or albums so yeah Hybe is good. I know some company stans are wishing for Hybe’s downfall but are going to be disappointed. 😂

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    Well, bts are gonna enlist soon and hybe needs army to stay in the company.

    Txt and enhypen still don't have the whole of army attention so hybe is gonna debut more groups hoping that the biggest part of armys are gonna stay in the company...

    Ngl, I don't envy the fans of the boygroups... living with the fear of their groups getting dropped if they don't bring in as much money as the agency wants them to.

    I greatly admired BTS seriously. But their career really started peaking in 2016 , 3 yrs after their debut & EXO was still in the running. It was in 2018 that BTS cemented their status as the King of Kpop and the rest are too far from their success. No one not even BP comes too close.


    Enhypen is just a 15month old. Txt is 3 yrs old. Enhypen was the fastest to sell 1 million albums even before they turned 1yr old. Their repackaged album is selling like a new album ( more than 700k) released only 3 months after their million seller full album. They are also earning well in Japan. They charted in 8/10 top music industry. The only place they dont really do well is SK. But do u think Hybe cares abt K- platform digital charting ? All they care abt is money. Why do u think they usually get western producers ? They want their grps to be more globally acceptable. They want profit and boygroups sell a lot. Concerts are also fanbased oriented. When they start touring, it will be the biggest milking cow as well. All Hybe grps will do concerts on the second half of the yr.


    Hybe is not stupid. They are not looking for BTS replacement. They are still peaking, gaining more fans daily. Even if some enlist, they have their maknae line ( the most famous line) that can do a unit projects or even individual one to gain more profit.


    SVT is comparable to NCT. Both are next to BTS fame from 3rd gen. Both Enhypen & TxT are part of top tier 4th gen boygroups along with SKZ. Hybe will launch 3 GGs - they will all do well. Sakura’s grp will sell well in Japan & China . Adore grp will probably get support from BH stans. I-Land grls will do well since they will be coming from survival shows & if they are as good lookinh as EN members, they will have the support of some engenes. At least one if those grps will be the number kpop gg . And all will sell well. Then, the debut of Trainee A, they already have fans. Regardless of negative press, it will still give them a boost - look at NMIXX and aespa. They had a lot of bad press before they debut. So yes, Hybe will remain number 1 for such a long time.

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    I think Be's promotion was "half assed" because it was a mid-pandemic project that was never going to be toured or promoted the same was as a normal album. Whenever their new album cycle gears up, I think they're going to go all out bc they've been hinting at a world tour.


    and no offense to fans of those groups....but if there's one thing that's obvious from the debuts of txt and enhypen, it's that Hybe has no idea how to recreate BTS.


    they can send their new boys to America, make them busk on the streets, teach them how to rap, but at the end of the day, BTS' special chemistry isn't going to magically transfer to their juniors. There are too many Armys who will drop kpop the moment BTS stop being active for the SM strategy to work.

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    Hybe was too greedy and shot themselves in the foot. Armys were really supportive of TXT and they would support all the groups with no complaints but Hybe decided to start giving BTS half assed everything and overpriced albums and merch and that put a lot of people off.

    True i ended up disliking the other groups because of this obvious in your face strategy

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    Hybe was too greedy and shot themselves in the foot. Armys were really supportive of TXT and they would support all the groups with no complaints but Hybe decided to start giving BTS half assed everything and overpriced albums and merch and that put a lot of people off.

    This is kind of true I don't dislike them but I don't hype them up anymore u got hybe for that lol

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    U should envy bg with big fandom since they dont need the most fickle-minded GP to support them so they can score CFs or hosting gig. U do know that streaming itself is not profitable right? If u sell more than 500k units , it’s way more profitable than charting number in Melon. How much more if u sell a million albums? In Japan alone , Enhypen earned 12million dollars in 2021 that made top 2 most profitable grp among 4th gen, top 1 is a Japanese grp. Their total earnings across rhe globe is probably 5-10 times bigger.Also, Enhypen does not rely too much on Armys, they built their own fandom & it’s more than enough. They are a profitable 15 month old grp. All their achievements are way better if u compare what other grps achieved in their 15 month career.


    Hybe wont go down if BTS enlist. They still have SVT, Enhypen and TxT that sell well if u compared it to other labels. The new GG will probably focus in domestic charting & probably even sell well. Some BTS members may also have individual gigs or albums so yeah Hybe is good. I know some company stans are wishing for Hybe’s downfall but are going to be disappointed. 😂

    Calm your horses !

    All I'm saying is that army as a whole still don't care about the new groups. En and txt are incomparable to bts and hybe knows that. That's why they're gonna debut more groups with the hope of getting as much support from army as they can.

    Ofc hybe won't go down but they want to maximize bts fandom force the best they can until they enlist and are trying their best to keep the attention to their new groups debuting. In fact traineeA are gonna be hybe's best shot for international support.

    If you think that selling albums is more profitable than charting well you're delusional. Charting well doesn't end there, charting well makes you famous with the gp, gets you everyone's interest which gets you the chance of many cfs and your songs being used in many shows which brings in so much more money than your scenario. Also artists with successful songs get invited in tv shows and once covid restrictions end the live events will start again they'll have a chance of making money there.

    I'm sure if you'd ask any music figure out there, they'll tell you they prefer having a hit sing than a lot of albums being sold in the next comeback.

    In the past yes, because no one sells a lot esp 3rd gen & 2nd gen. Selling albums if u sell more than a million are more profitable if u focus on international market. Actually,concerts are the most profitable. And guess who is doing well in concerts? Mostly boy groups.Why do u think BTS is concentrating on that ? They dont even release new albums nor care abt promoting in SK. I know 4th gen boygroups dont do well in SK digital charting but internationally esp in spotify, most of their songs are getting better streams overall than 3rd gen except BTS & BP. They are also getting endorsements, mag covers for international market. Melon is getting old. Labels dont care anymore. Most of them are fighting for top US BB spot and other international market esp Japan.


    Old kpoppies need to realize international fans do not follow the music taste of SK GP who we all know are very partial to GG but tend to get tired of them after 2-3 yrs. BGs only need to gain more loyal fans & release good music & they will be safe. Hybe is known for their good discography. It’s not too localize nor too experimental so they are safe. U’ll never know if someone will be at least half as successful as BTS. BTS took 3-5 yrs to cement their status . TxtT just turned 3 yrs old while Enhypen is just a 15 month old grp.

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    Calm your horses !

    All I'm saying is that army as a whole still don't care about the new groups. En and txt are incomparable to bts and hybe knows that. That's why they're gonna debut more groups with the hope of getting as much support from army as they can.

    Ofc hybe won't go down but they want to maximize bts fandom force the best they can until they enlist and are trying their best to keep the attention to their new groups debuting. In fact traineeA are gonna be hybe's best shot for international support.

    If you think that selling albums is more profitable than charting well you're delusional. Charting well doesn't end there, charting well makes you famous with the gp, gets you everyone's interest which gets you the chance of many cfs and your songs being used in many shows which brings in so much more money than your scenario. Also artists with successful songs get invited in tv shows and once covid restrictions end the live events will start again they'll have a chance of making money there.

    I'm sure if you'd ask any music figure out there, they'll tell you they prefer having a hit sing than a lot of albums being sold in the next comeback.

    Same. As much as we all want BTS to escape from those Kpop narratives, they're still working as Kpop singers and are Koreans themselves. So the Kpop rules that once a group get older, the company will focus on newer groups more will apply to BTS as well. No matter how fans are trying to deny it, it's still happening, it has happened with other groups and will happen with BTS, it just takes slower because BTS is too big and Hybe is still making banks from them. But we're getting there. So Armys should get used to it.

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    In the past yes, because no one sells a lot esp 3rd gen & 2nd gen. Selling albums if u sell more than a million are more profitable if u focus on international market. Actually,concerts are the most profitable. And guess who is doing well in concerts? Mostly boy groups.Why do u think BTS is concentrating on that ? They dont even release new albums nor care abt promoting in SK. I know 4th gen boygroups dont do well in SK digital charting but internationally esp in spotify, most of their songs are getting better streams overall than 3rd gen except BTS & BP. They are also getting endorsements, mag covers for international market. Melon is getting old. Labels dont care anymore. Most of them are fighting for top US BB spot and other international market esp Japan.


    Old kpoppies need to realize international fans do not follow the music taste of SK GP who we all know are very partial to GG but tend to get tired of them after 2-3 yrs. BGs only need to gain more loyal fans & release good music & they will be safe. Hybe is known for their good discography. It’s not too localize nor too experimental so they are safe. U’ll never know if someone will be at least half as successful as BTS. BTS took 3-5 yrs to cement their status . TxtT just turned 3 yrs old while Enhypen is just a 15 month old grp.

    Besides buying albums international fans can't do much.

    The best way to make money is becoming big in sk, even more now that no one is having concerts outside sk besides the ones big enough to do so in the USA like twice or bts.

    And also charting well on bb won't give cfs to the groups, maybe 1 or 2 but not as many as when you have a hit in sk.

    And clearly right now nor txt or en are bringing in the money hybe needs to be safe once bts enlists or maybe take a longer break. Ofc they're bringing in money, but that doesn't mean hybe feels secure with their encome.

    That's why there's still many groups debuting in the next 2 years.

    Bringing money? In 2021 alone, Enhypen earned more than 12 million dollars from Japan alone - it’s a combination of albums, streams & dvds/ merchs. That made them the second highest earners of 4th gen grp in Japan. The 1st is a Japanese grp. They earned like 5-10 times more globally. So yes, selling albums are profitable than streaming in kcharts if ur selling millions of albums. Obviously for grps that couldnt sell more than 500k units , it’s not profitable so they need to chart well to get more gigs & earn more. I bet my life they are one of the top 4th gen kpop earners in 2021. They also scored several endorsements- Abib ( SK), Ami Paris ( France ) as global ambassador & Nike in Japan as brand ambassador. They also had several magazine covers ( SK, Japan, Phils) that are sold out. All their merchs are selling well if not all sold out.Hybe is planning to have all their groups to have concerts w/c includes Enhypen . They will have arena tour in Japan. Japan is the 2nd biggest music industry .SK is just like top 8. Concerts are the most profitable gig for artists/kpop grps. And know what? The bigger the fandom, the more successful ur concerts will be. And it doesnt need to be in SK. Asia is a big continent, they have a lot of fans in Japan, SEA countries and even ME. They can build a fandom in US & Europe when they start promotingv& touring. Time is their friend. They are young and potential is still a lot. They are also doing well in spotify. 4th for kpop grps overall w/ highest monthly listeners. They are abt to become the fastest & youngest kpop grp to reach 1 Billion streams in spotify. It tells u that GP around the globe listen to them. They also charted in 8/10 top music industry including France where only BTS , BP were able to do so. Old kpoppies are still stuck in the past . The market for kpop is bigger now , album sales are higher than ever coz of it. U no longer need to compete in saturated Korean Market, u have Japan, SEA countries, US , Europe or even China to target.Even Middle East & African countries are getting invaded by kpop . Even labels are not caring anymore in Korean Market esp for BGs. All Kpop grps dream now is to be number 1 in BB . It’s the biggest flex nowadays. Melon is just an icing on top. Nice to have only. The world is bigger than SK.

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    Besides buying albums international fans can't do much.

    The best way to make money is becoming big in sk, even more now that no one is having concerts outside sk besides the ones big enough to do so in the USA like twice or bts.

    And also charting well on bb won't give cfs to the groups, maybe 1 or 2 but not as many as when you have a hit in sk.

    And clearly right now nor txt or en are bringing in the money hybe needs to be safe once bts enlists or maybe take a longer break. Ofc they're bringing in money, but that doesn't mean hybe feels secure with their encome.

    That's why there's still many groups debuting in the next 2 years.

    And Hybe bringing in more grps is fine. They dont have ggs so why not bring in 3 to cover for SK ( Adore grp) Japan & China for Sakura grp and ilanders gg for SEA countries and more global since global fans will choose them. Another BG for hiphop theme for those missing it. Personally, i dont even like rap so I dont care abt it. But global market is bigger now and it can all accommodate them. All of them can have that respectable level of success. They dont need to be BTS . No one can be BTS. They are already legends. SVT, TXT and ENHYPEN are all successful and bringing in the money as expected of them.

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    Bringing money? In 2021 alone, Enhypen earned more than 12 million dollars from Japan alone - it’s a combination of albums, streams & dvds/ merchs. That made them the second highest earners of 4th gen grp in Japan. The 1st is a Japanese grp. They earned like 5-10 times more globally. So yes, selling albums are profitable than streaming in kcharts if ur selling millions of albums. Obviously for grps that couldnt sell more than 500k units , it’s not profitable so they need to chart well to get more gigs & earn more. I bet my life they are one of the top 4th gen kpop earners in 2021. They also scored several endorsements- Abib ( SK), Ami Paris ( France ) as global ambassador & Nike in Japan as brand ambassador. They also had several magazine covers ( SK, Japan, Phils) that are sold out. All their merchs are selling well if not all sold out.Hybe is planning to have all their groups to have concerts w/c includes Enhypen . They will have arena tour in Japan. Japan is the 2nd biggest music industry .SK is just like top 8. Concerts are the most profitable gig for artists/kpop grps. And know what? The bigger the fandom, the more successful ur concerts will be. And it doesnt need to be in SK. Asia is a big continent, they have a lot of fans in Japan, SEA countries and even ME. They can build a fandom in US & Europe when they start promotingv& touring. Time is their friend. They are young and potential is still a lot. They are also doing well in spotify. 4th for kpop grps overall w/ highest monthly listeners. They are abt to become the fastest & youngest kpop grp to reach 1 Billion streams in spotify. It tells u that GP around the globe listen to them. They also charted in 8/10 top music industry including France where only BTS , BP were able to do so. Old kpoppies are still stuck in the past . The market for kpop is bigger now , album sales are higher than ever coz of it. U no longer need to compete in saturated Korean Market, u have Japan, SEA countries, US , Europe or even China to target.Even Middle East & African countries are getting invaded by kpop . Even labels are not caring anymore in Korean Market esp for BGs. All Kpop grps dream now is to be number 1 in BB . It’s the biggest flex nowadays. Melon is just an icing on top. Nice to have only. The world is bigger than SK.

    Who tf said that charting is profitable, you're the only one who keeps on talking about charting high on bb and so on. I said that charting well means having a hit and that will bring you more cfs opportunities. Groups biggest opportunities are still in sk, like it or not.

    If you really think that en are the best then why is hybe debuting new groups ?

    You're really so closed minded.

    HYBE is biting more than they can chew.

    BTS are adults and they know better about themselves. If they ever feel they are in disadvantageous or uncomfortable situation, they will simply cut ties with HYBE and BigHit. BTS has enough power and money to establish their own label tomorrow if they want to.


    Maybe you should respect them as artists and individuals. All these theories come from your own insecurity and lack of trust and respect towards artist you supposedly stan.

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    BTS are adults and they know better about themselves. If they ever feel they are in disadvantageous or uncomfortable situation, they will simply cut ties with HYBE and BigHit. BTS has enough power and money to establish their own label tomorrow if they want to.


    Maybe you should respect them as artists and individuals. All these theories come from your own insecurity and lack of trust and respect towards artist you supposedly stan.

    or they can retire amd enjoy their money for the rest of their lives.

    u imply that no hybe grps are earning enough and always on their toes are SUS to me. SVT, EN and TXT are all doing well. obviously they want more profit . They are capitalist afterall, more groups that can sell millions the better. im just pointing out that labels no longer care abt charting in melon. they focus more on international stardom. obviously EN is not yet there but for a 15 month grp they are doing extremely well in terms of profit. Adding one more boygrp is not bec of local charting, all bgs will most likely focus in international success but to give more flavors to international fans. Whether they do well or not depends on their charm & has nothing to do with their talent. Charisma is always the reason why certain grps reaches stardom way bigger than ther rest.. Ggs are for local charting and probably why they are launching 3 grps. And why not? If all their bgs can sell more than a million and svt continues to sell more than 2 million then ggs for half a million & do well locally then Hybe will remain number 1 for a long time. I never denied that but u implying that no other grps in Hybe are doing well enough is not true. They are equally if not greater than their counterpart in other labels. I already explained that NCT & SVT are equal. TxT , EN are both part of 4th gen top tier grps including SKZ. No one comes closer in terms of profit overall. Even if they scored a lot of CFs for GGs ( 4th gen) u cannot compare it with the boygroups earnings selling millions of units and endorsements deals internationally.


    BTS is just simply exceptional. No one comes closer from all generations across all labels.

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    Who tf said that charting is profitable, you're the only one who keeps on talking about charting high on bb and so on. I said that charting well means having a hit and that will bring you more cfs opportunities. Groups biggest opportunities are still in sk, like it or not.

    If you really think that en are the best then why is hybe debuting new groups ?

    You're really so closed minded.

    I seriously doubt that that's how it works tbh.

    They signed a contract, so they can't just cut ties and leave whenever they feel like it. It's what contracts are for. They ensure that all parties involved uphold their end of a bargain. If you want out early it tends to cost a shit ton of money to buy your freedom. You have to compensate the other parties for what they're going to miss out on in revenue afterall. And if you simply refuse to uphold your end of a contract it results in a (potentiality even more costly) lawsuit.

    Being am adult comes with a lot of obligations and responsibilities and a profound lack of doing what you want when you want.

    no, bts with gazillion armies can sustain themselves unless their faves member fell into dating/personality scandal


    On the other hand, new groups will took some of txt and enhypen fanbases since they aren't established yet.

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    and no offense to fans of those groups....but if there's one thing that's obvious from the debuts of txt and enhypen, it's that Hybe has no idea how to recreate BTS.


    they can send their new boys to America, make them busk on the streets, teach them how to rap, but at the end of the day, BTS' special chemistry isn't going to magically transfer to their juniors. There are too many Armys who will drop kpop the moment BTS stop being active for the SM strategy to work.


    hybe is not thinking about bts when they created txt and enhypen. Their styles were too different from bts. Trainee A, is for sure what bangpd's wants to be bts 2.0

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    and no offense to fans of those groups....but if there's one thing that's obvious from the debuts of txt and enhypen, it's that Hybe has no idea how to recreate BTS.

    They're different because bighit didn't even try to make enha and txt similar to bts, cause bts is still active. It's obvious, enhypen doesn't even have a rapper and txt debuted with a cute and bright concept. If they wanted bts 2, they would get more members with rapper background and they would add a rapline. With trainee a it does seem they're trying.

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    hybe is not thinking about bts when they created txt and enhypen. Their styles were too different from bts. Trainee A, is for sure what bangpd's wants to be bts 2.0


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    They're different because bighit didn't even try to make enha and txt similar to bts, cause bts is still active. It's obvious, enhypen doesn't even have a rapper and txt debuted with a cute and bright concept. If they wanted bts 2, they would get more members with rapper background and they would add a rapline. With trainee a it does seem they're trying.

    I was talking about trainee A lmao. the training and busking in the US thing is an obvious attempt to give them their American Hustle Life moment.

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    I was talking about trainee A lmao. the training and busking in the US thing is an obvious attempt to give them their American Hustle Life moment.

    You literally wrote "and no offense to fans of those groups....but if there's one thing that's obvious from the debuts of txt and enhypen, it's that Hybe has no idea how to recreate BTS". :pepewhat:

    Relax, even if BTS disband tomorrow they're millionaires now. They'll do fine with solo careers. So there's really no need to be anxious.

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    u imply that no hybe grps are earning enough and always on their toes are SUS to me. SVT, EN and TXT are all doing well. obviously they want more profit . They are capitalist afterall, more groups that can sell millions the better. im just pointing out that labels no longer care abt charting in melon. they focus more on international stardom. obviously EN is not yet there but for a 15 month grp they are doing extremely well in terms of profit. Adding one more boygrp is not bec of local charting, all bgs will most likely focus in international success but to give more flavors to international fans. Whether they do well or not depends on their charm & has nothing to do with their talent. Charisma is always the reason why certain grps reaches stardom way bigger than ther rest.. Ggs are for local charting and probably why they are launching 3 grps. And why not? If all their bgs can sell more than a million and svt continues to sell more than 2 million then ggs for half a million & do well locally then Hybe will remain number 1 for a long time. I never denied that but u implying that no other grps in Hybe are doing well enough is not true. They are equally if not greater than their counterpart in other labels. I already explained that NCT & SVT are equal. TxT , EN are both part of 4th gen top tier grps including SKZ. No one comes closer in terms of profit overall. Even if they scored a lot of CFs for GGs ( 4th gen) u cannot compare it with the boygroups earnings selling millions of units and endorsements deals internationally.


    BTS is just simply exceptional. No one comes closer from all generations across all labels.

    Why are you so focused on en. I didn't drag anyone and I don't need to know that en has debuted 15 months ago every time you write a message.

    Anyways, No, they're not earning enough. All the groups together don't make as much as bts. And hybe once bts will enlist or who knows, take a break or also disband, needs other groups as profitable as them or more.

    So no, the groups now are not profitable enough until hybe recreates a group that's gonna be the successor of bts, and no, as of now no group who debuted is a contender for that title.

    And still, selling albums is not enough to say a group is profitable. It's good for sure, but that's not everything.

    You talk about melon and all, what do you think, most groups besides bts make money in sk. Having hit songs is one of the factors in making a group's image and having countless of cfs waiting for you.

    17 are for sure big but they too are gonna enlist soon, and who's left later, txt and en. And both of them are still not big enough for hybe, thus the new groups.

    Hybe doesn't need to keep being on the same level , they need to get bigger, and as of now there's no chance the company will once bts is out of the picture.

    Bunch of nonsense. You are saying that txt and en aren't enough for hybe. But txt and en are much bigger than any of the 4th gen groups of big3 companies. How are those big3 companies going to survive without their money makers too then (twice, blackpink, nct)??

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