[Poll] What are your 'dealbreakers' that would prevent you stanning a group?

Assault scandals. Like sexual assault, murder, seriously injuring someone with no remorse, etc.

if their music sucks then bye

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I definitely should have put murder as an option

I don't remember who but there's apparently an older Korean male celebrity who shows up on varieties that once ran over someone and tried to hide their body and has no remorse at all.

If someone did that as an idol I would be disgusted fully.

Bad music or I don’t like members voices

Assault scandals

Music too bland

Their on camera personalities don't appeal to me

Lack identity and a clear musical direction

music too bland.

i agree with tetetete , scandals depend on the context.

I put bland music and music all sounds the same.

Performance is nice and everything, but I'm not really someone who focuses on live performances. If a group makes good music, then I'm going to listen to it.

All a group has to do for me to stan is consistently make music that makes me excited.

mediocore singing, noisy music, too different music , assualt and a few more but mostly this

That's an extensive list. For me I guess

1) music too bland

2) racism/misogyny - although a lot of so called "scandals" are more ignorance than wilful maliciousness. Examples of truly disgusting behaviour -

a) Anyone that was in Jung joon young's molka chat group automatically gets a pass and forever contempt from me. I used to love Roy Kim's music but I CANNOT stand that man anymore.

b) Han from SKZ who used the lyrics "blackie foreign worker" as a pejorative in a pre-debut rap. Left a bad taste in my mouth. Unstanned but still listen to their music since it's a group of 8. He's a talented guy but I will never take an interest in his solo work because of this.

not too much hiphop rap and no weird construction noises and if it's so auto tuned i can't distinguish their voices...kek so that eliminates a lot of BGs

For GG's there are no deal breakers as such... If the song is an ear worm i'll listen.

If I don't like the music (and if it all sounds the same), if I don't like their voices, if they have no identity and if the members seem rude/fake

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or not being able to connect to the members, not because their personalities seems bad or not fun, but just i don't vibe

This one is hard to explain but I can totally relate

Overreliance on sex appeal

Loud screamy vocals ( even if its 'good' technique)

No distinct color and confidence in music

Extremely egocentric both music and personality

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same he have a song call "Bom bom bom" that i really love and always loved to listen during spring

but i was very disappointed to know that he was part of this group chat

Wait , WHAT ????? :OOOOOOo

Yeah re: Roy Kim - he was also such close friends with that rapist Jung joon-young that he will be forever sus to me.

Re: Han - there's a korea boo article about it but cant post the link as it's a censored word: https://www.k***boo.com/news/stray-kids-han-predebut-rap-racist-ableist/

The only deal breakers are mediocre singing skills and never singing live. And to a lesser extent lacking stage presence.

In recent years I find I'm watching performances less and less, I mostly just stream recorded music including live albums.

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That's really shocking

found him:

Jo Hyung Ki

Actor and comedian Jo Hyung Kiwho frequents variety shows these days with his image as a funny old man is known as "Killer Jo" because of the crime he committed back in 1991. He killed a woman in her 30s while driving under the influence of alcohol. What makes his case much more serious than it already is, is the fact that he took the dead body and dumped it somewhere else in an attempt to conceal his crime - ironically, he was caught red handed because he fell asleep in the car right beside where he hid the body. He served one year before being released, and his case is one of the landmark cases that law students come across in their studies as a drunk driving murderer being released after one year which remains highly controversial till this day. He began appearing in dramas right after he was released.

Not a fan of the music or voices, too young or they assault/abused someone

The big one is if they have anyone in the group who is a just plain awful person. If one absolute trash person is in the group it ruins listening to the whole group for me 99% of those people get kicked out though so very rarely an issue

The 2nd is if their music just lacks identity. If I go through the whole discography and still go "??? who the heck is that" when one of their songs comes up I can't exactly call myself a stan

Finally having variety content is pretty important to me but I can look past it if the member's personalities and music are great

lack of talent/skill

no stage presence, never sing live

bland music, no musical identity

actively bad behaviour/personality