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Ador is literally going to be RV 2.0.
rv got destroyed by bp,twice does this means ador is also going to get destroyed
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Sakura might have a huge following, but I never got her appeal.
Sure, she's adorable, but there are other idols that are adorable too. As for talent, even in her own group IZ*One there were a number of members that were better singers and dancers or that had better stage presence.
Also, I cant keep track of all the girl groups HYBE want to debut. I thought Sakura would be part of Ador but apparently not? So what's Ador then if it's not the group Sakura and Chaewon are in.
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some of you are overestimating sakura's popularity by a lot but at the same time, most of you are underestimating it by a lot. sakura isn't the jennie or suzy of her generation but she's still extremely popular with a very hardcore fanbase. of course, i don't think she (even with chaewon) can carry the whole group on her back but she's still a huge boost for lssrfm.
with a good concept and nice music, i'm sure they'll be extremely successful. the gp and kpop stans are hungry for something that's not "experimental sounds" so if hybe and source play their cards right, they'll be holding the next 4th gen leading group in their hands.
in theory, the only thing that can stop them is the rest of the members not being talented or funny enough. unless they pull off an IVE (aka the izone members being the initial boost with the rest of the members being great performers and stan-magnets) they might end up as "ssamkkura and friends" which will be mainly a problem for the other 3-4 members.
as for her talents - sakura might not be the best vocalist but her voice is still great, the same goes for her dancing and stage presence. i'm sure once (or if) she's given the opportunity to fully show what she's capable of, she'll pleasantly surprise us.
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Sakura might have a huge following, but I never got her appeal.
Sure, she's adorable, but there are other idols that are adorable too. As for talent, even in her own group IZ*One there were a number of members that were better singers and dancers or that had better stage presence.
Also, I cant keep track of all the girl groups HYBE want to debut. I thought Sakura would be part of Ador but apparently not? So what's Ador then if it's not the group Sakura and Chaewon are in.
Ador(then pgngg) was supposed to be Soumu x bighit (now hybe) GG with the concept by min heejin. After this collab gg project min heejin was supposed to have her own label. But gfriend's disbandment and covid fkked the things up and they transfered that group to a new label ador by min heejin. And in 2021 they decided to form this sakura group under Soumu as a Collab project.
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Ador(then pgngg) was supposed to be Soumu x bighit (now hybe) GG with the concept by min heejin. After this collab gg project min heejin was supposed to have her own label. But gfriend's disbandment and covid fkked the things up and they transfered that group to a new label ador by min heejin. And in 2021 they decided to form this sakura group under Soumu as a Collab project.
I see.
But if HYBE are really debuting 3 girl groups, then doesn't it mean that they'll be competing amongst themselves?
Since it'll be about who get the most love, attention and resources from HYBE, exactly like how fandoms of other companies are fighting and competing if there are too many groups in a company and not all groups are being treated equally or equally successful.
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Honestly, no. As someone else said a lot of you guys overestimate Sakura's influence.
To begin with, while she's well known in Japan, a lot of her uncles fans dropped her after she debuted with Iz*One and even moreso after she broke her promise to return to HKT48 after Iz*One disbanded. On top of which, in Japan she was already hitting that age rage where she would be considered too old to be an idol. Sakura is well known in Japan but she isn't some top celebrity and If you read some of the comments by Jnetz you will realize this.
When she was in Iz*One, her uncle fans wasn't carrying her and the group. Most of Iz*One fans in Japan were female Japanese K****boos who didn't even like HKT48 or any of the AKB48 girls like that and now that Iz*One is over a majority of them probably moved on.
As for China, she doesn't even have the largest fan bar of 4th gen girl groups, not only does Wonyoung now high a larger fanbar and fantopic than her, but there is also Aespa as well as Gidle that surpass her in China.
So quite honestly, I feel like people need to temper their expectations for this group or they could be setting them up.
They definitely won't flop and have the potential to be hugely successful but it won't be dependant on just Sakura to carry. Chaewon and Yunjin are both already popular in their own rights and with the right other members and good concept by HYBE, then I can see it happening.
Right now, rather than Sakura's group, I would actually say that nmixx is the one GG fans shouldn be worrying about. In spite of their shitty song, they are pretty close to beating Aespa debut album record, and has a member that can compete with Wonyoung for it girl, and if that wasn't enough, they have talented vocals. Literally all it takes is one semi-decent good song from them and every other 4th Gen girl group will be finished.
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Honestly, no. As someone else said a lot of you guys overestimate Sakura's influence.
To begin with, while she's well known in Japan, a lot of her uncles fans dropped her after she debuted with Iz*One and even moreso after she broke her promise to return to HKT48 after Iz*One disbanded. On top of which, in Japan she was already hitting that age rage where she would be considered too old to be an idol. Sakura is well known in Japan but she isn't some top celebrity and If you read some of the comments by Jnetz you will realize this.
When she was in Iz*One, her uncle fans wasn't carrying her and the group. Most of Iz*One fans in Japan were female Japanese K****boos who didn't even like HKT48 or any of the AKB48 girls like that and now that Iz*One is over a majority of them probably moved on.
As for China, she doesn't even have the largest fan bar of 4th gen girl groups, not only does Wonyoung now high a larger fanbar and fantopic than her, but there is also Aespa as well as Gidle that surpass her in China.
So quite honestly, I feel like people need to temper their expectations for this group or they could be setting them up.
They definitely won't flop and have the potential to be hugely successful but it won't be dependant on just Sakura to carry. Chaewon and Yunjin are both already popular in their own rights and with the right other members and good concept by HYBE, then I can see it happening.
Right now, rather than Sakura's group, I would actually say that nmixx is the one GG fans shouldn be worrying about. In spite of their shitty song, they are pretty close to beating Aespa debut album record, and has a member that can compete with Wonyoung for it girl, and if that wasn't enough, they have talented vocals. Literally all it takes is one semi-decent good song from them and every other 4th Gen girl group will be finished.
The only reason why nmixx sales come close to aespa sales is because Jyp is boosting nmixx sales by doing fanmeet for 2 months when usually group do fanmeet just 2 weeks
And they are doing this because jyp can't accept that one of the group they thought would be a top group is flopping hard by achieving absolutely nothing on spotify' youtube,koreans chart or sales
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Honestly, no. As someone else said a lot of you guys overestimate Sakura's influence.
To begin with, while she's well known in Japan, a lot of her uncles fans dropped her after she debuted with Iz*One and even moreso after she broke her promise to return to HKT48 after Iz*One disbanded. On top of which, in Japan she was already hitting that age rage where she would be considered too old to be an idol. Sakura is well known in Japan but she isn't some top celebrity and If you read some of the comments by Jnetz you will realize this.
When she was in Iz*One, her uncle fans wasn't carrying her and the group. Most of Iz*One fans in Japan were female Japanese K****boos who didn't even like HKT48 or any of the AKB48 girls like that and now that Iz*One is over a majority of them probably moved on.
As for China, she doesn't even have the largest fan bar of 4th gen girl groups, not only does Wonyoung now high a larger fanbar and fantopic than her, but there is also Aespa as well as Gidle that surpass her in China.
So quite honestly, I feel like people need to temper their expectations for this group or they could be setting them up.
They definitely won't flop and have the potential to be hugely successful but it won't be dependant on just Sakura to carry. Chaewon and Yunjin are both already popular in their own rights and with the right other members and good concept by HYBE, then I can see it happening.
Right now, rather than Sakura's group, I would actually say that nmixx is the one GG fans shouldn be worrying about. In spite of their shitty song, they are pretty close to beating Aespa debut album record, and has a member that can compete with Wonyoung for it girl, and if that wasn't enough, they have talented vocals. Literally all it takes is one semi-decent good song from them and every other 4th Gen girl group will be finished.
Sullyoon is no where near wonyoung she needs to worry about beating Karina first before WY and Winter and as someone else said their sales are only that high because jyp still doing fanneets.
Aespa next cb will outsell them do not even try to compare.
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Gg don’t even sell that much in jpn anymore, physical market is dying there.
So I don’t think jpn sales will help them all THAT much, it’ll be streaming wise on YouTube bb global 200 even Spotify (as jpn is starting to impact global streaming services mor and more)
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