Ive vs Stayc vs Kep1er vs Billie: Which of these groups from non-Big4 agency do you see most potential?

idc as long they’re doing well who cares but non big4 are eating lately

Starship is handling IVE extremely well an the fact that they are not stepping back because of Big Bang comeback it shows they are EXTREMELY confident with this release.

That trailer teaser or whatever it is was amazing! specially the last part and the song sounds a banger (probably a b-side)

I can see IVE being a TOP group pretty easily with how they are being handled

I'm so hyped for this new release

stayc, i feel like they'll be really really big in the future

Ive, they're a very marketable group and starship is handling them well

I do think Kep1er has a big potential too, high sales guaranted and I think they can chart well with the right song.

i'd say kep1er, they come from a survival program and they have already sold great numbers, but they are not permanent, so it will hurt them in the end.

billlie seem too experimental for gp's taste, so i'd say it's between stayc and ive.

StayC > Ive > Billlie > Kep1er in that order.

The true powers in Kpop are the producers, they are obscured by the idols. No amount of idol image will work without good songs.

Black Eyed Pilseung have tied themselves to StayC as carriers of their vision. That more than anything can make them a huge success- longevity of success.

Ive - Starship has shown with WJSN, that they are the only agency who did not mess up Produce success. If they continue to do that again with Ive, the group can be the leaders of the 4th gen.

Billie - Might be the Mamamoo of the 4th gen, the underdog which succeeded. Again because Mystic Story is very solid production house, but have not launched anything big since Brown Eyed Girls. They got talents like Kim Eana signed up, so if that works, the group got it made.

Kep1er - I think a fatigue has set in with the reality tv groups, Iz*one was the peak, but no new group will reach that popularity for some more years. And these groups are mismanaged with too many cooks.

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Just my speculation. But this industry is extremely volatile that nobody can predict anything for sure. The big 3 are the big 3, because they are less unpredictable i.e. people will put up with their groups, even if one or two comebacks don't succeed. Whereas others run the risk of sinking upon any failure.

In terms of song quality to my taste:

Billlie >= StayC > Ive > Kep1er

IVE, StayC and Kep1er are and debuted on another league when compared to my top tier nugus but Billlie's grow is going to surprise many people I will say that.

Kep1er will disband meaning whatever they achieve will be eventually surpassed.

Billie doesn't stand a chance, sorry they are just too nugu.

It's between Stayc and Ive. Ive's eleven had much more success and hype than any stayc song but I can't say ive has bigger potential based on that alone. Stayc has many releases that went big and we need to see how will Ive's next ones do

probably IVE

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Quote from reina-en

Billie doesn't stand a chance, sorry they are just too nugu.

U are right. Billlie outsold Billie. Imposter

In this order

1. Ive

2. Stayc

3. Billlie

4. Kep1er

It should be StayC, but probably IVE. Billie and that Keplen group have zero chance.

Ive, then StayC.

I think Ive has too much star power with Wonyoung alone. I can also see Leeseo and maybe Rei blowing up somewhat.