Why do you guys act like StayC didn't come from a nugu company ?

  • Like seriously StayC's achievement are very much impressive they're literally on part with the big 3 ggs from 4gen the success they've accumulated is huge for a group that comes from an unknown company that have no previous artists and i know what you're going to say their producers are literally bep but let's not forget successful producers doesn't equal successful group just take a look at brave company, so whatever Stay is doing right now is really huge and they deserve all the praise I mean they're literally charting and selling like a group from the big and mid companies.

    StayC girls it's going down

  • cause real nugu companies start with much less capital and dont get to spend even a 10th of their money on promos and have to rely solely on miracles to even get noticed in the first place

    u r m o m g a y

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  • Because people are strange

    will use Brave Girls as example

    Brave Brothers was also well known producer yet somehow for such long Brave Girls were treated as nugus, their music was bashed, and no one cared about them, if not random youtuber they would already disband...


    just a reminder


    Brave Brothers produced songs for Big Bang, Hyuna, After School, T-ARA, Jay Park, Gummy, Sistar, Sunmi... and so many more great well known artists.


    yet with Black Eyed Pilseung people will go waa woohhh wufufuf and think that BEP are some hella rich guys, and their company looks amazing... and it's the opposite, they don't even have own building, just renting two floors in some small building...

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  • cause real nugu companies start with much less capital and dont get to spend even a 10th of their money on promos and have to rely solely on miracles to even get noticed in the first place

    Nugu company doesn't mean poor it just the company is unknown in the industry Bbc loona's comapny is nugu yet they have money to promote their group

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  • Nugu company doesn't mean poor it just the company is unknown in the industry Bbc loona's comapny is nugu yet they have money to promote their group

    loona had close to zero promotions throughout their career


    tehy did dish a lot of money on their videos and music though


    that's kind of mismanagement tbh


    but yeah im not saying stayc's groups arent nugus


    just that they're not seen as such because of the huge hype they generated from being in the public eye since predebut

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  • Why do people act like just because a group isn't Big 3 that they have zero resources?

  • Comparing their companies (Loona and StayC) is actually a good example

    They are both new, they both got the capitol, they didnt had any experience. One managed their budget well the other well blew it up.


    BEP are new to the market, but it seems like they kept their eyes open and did learn a few things

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  • Why do people act like just because a group isn't Big 3 that they have zero resources?

    everyone loves the underdog

    Comparing their companies (Loona and StayC) is actually a good example

    They are both new, they both got the capitol, they didnt had any experience. One managed their budget well the other well blew it up.


    BEP are new to the market, but it seems like they kept their eyes open and did learn a few things

    well


    there's a reason loona fans had to make all those viral memes, fake news, piss off bigger fandoms and of course the famous STAN LOONA meme


    cause without word of mouth, the only other way to discover the group was if you by chance happened to land on one of their vids on youtube


    no ads

    no photoshoots

    no media articles

    no TV appearance


    literally 0 promotion


    it was honestly insanely frustrating

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  • To me, i think they're actually one of the most privileged GG in terms of company support.


    The company itself is ginormous, it's multiple times bigger than Hybe and many more multiples bigger than the other three big labels. Look at their roster:


    IU

    MonstaX

    Apink

    The Boyz

    Stayc

    Ive

    Weeekly

    Cravity

    WJSN



    You could argue Kakao has NINE acts that are well known among Kpop fans both inside and outside Korea, and six that are known to Korean GP. That's more than any other Kpop company except perhaps SM.

      

  • How many times I will respond to these type of comments. No one cares about Kakao in kpop, they don’t give the exposure of what BIG4 and doesn’t guarantee a huge success like you really think Apink, IU...are famous because they under sub label from Kakao it’s like saying Billlie has the big4 privilege because their company is under SM you cant be that serious :pepefacepalm:

  • Actually both sides of the argument look correct to me.


    HighUp entertainment is definitely not like Big 3 in its clout, but neither is it some struggling start up, Kakao funding is a big plus.


    Having a great producer is itself no guarantee for success - Brave Brothers/Brave Girls; but BB gave songs meant for BG to other groups, whereas BEP seem to be focused on STAYC, even reduced producing for Chungha/Twice.


    So STAYC falls in the middle, they are not Big 3, neither are they nugu. Should be considered 2nd or 3rd tier agency. Besides the agency model and clout network is changing a lot with Social Media/Pandemic. It does not go as far as it used.


    Look at Seori, a Youtuber who signed up with an unknown company as its first artist, is still making some waves. The advantage of belonging to a big agency might be limited to number of times the artist can fail and still continue. Not that much in terms of promotions, exposure as it used to be. Still there, but there are more options now.

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  • Big 5 privilege X(.


    Maybe there should be a thread regarding how Kakao has to be included in the Big 4, making it the Big 5 of Kpop.

    Neither CJ ENM nor Kakao M can be considered Kpop companies, until they recruit, train, debut talents with an in-house label. All they have been doing is buying/funding labels/producers who are already doing that business.


    Only HYBE because it grew from BigHit, deserves to join the Big 3, but I would wait till they debut a GG and make it a success.

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